Maybe dumb question here, but have to try to figure this out.

 

Apparently the red "denied error" can be caused by the App Pool recycling too often?

 

Problem I've had is if they don't recycle, the site slows down.

 

How often is too often and is there a work around for this?

 

On this support forum we set the App Pool to never recycle as the traffic levels are usually lower at 30 to 100 active users.

We never see a slow down in performance with any of these app pool settings for forums, however if you are seeing performance issues it could be caused by other applications on your website. To avoid this you could create a Virtual Directory/Application for the forum folder and place it in it's own application pool. 

 

I will ask for it's own application pool.

 

Thanks

My forum users (avg: 150 active users simultaneous) are reporting random errors like this.

Is it the one you are mentionning ? I have set the APP_RECYCLING to 1 x daily @ 5am .

What are my options to fix this ? 

Convert to SQL_sessions ?

 

I and many of my users report that they read one page of posts, then try to post a quick reply and then get this message. They must press refresh, which keeps them logged-in. If they are quick, they can post their reply. When this happens, all the posts are marked as "new". It makes catching-up on new threads very difficult, and participating in conversations even more difficult.

A new database date function has been created for the next release which will force all dates to be set web server side to prevent issues.

 

They are in a different time zone than me and my users. I'll report back when I hear about my application pool inquiry.

Your problem I suspect would be the app pool recycling. If you have anything over 20 active users on your forum it will probably recycle every 10 to 20 minutes causing loads of issues.

To give you an idea we set application pools for our own hosting services to 800MB for each website and 500MB for the free hosting websites:-

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At slow times, I have 35 active users, but frequently jump to 60+

So basically you are saying that if we  have unlimited RAM App Pools, and we still get SESSION TIMEOUTS it probably is a memory shortage problems ?

However, if your Web Wiz Forums installation is set to store sessions in databases it should reduce the impact of the application pool being recycled, but would still affect the new post indications and the active users list.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/default" rel="nofollow - http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/default

We also host their support forum on one of our Web Wiz Forums hosting packages at:-

http://forum.sysinternals.com/" rel="nofollow - http://forum.sysinternals.com

However, a simpler option would be to place Web Wiz Forums in it's own application pool by converting to the directory to an IIS application directory also known as a virtual directory. You can then be sure that nothing else is interfering with the application pool running your forum which can then also be fined tuned for your forums needs.

Thanks for all your suggestions. However, I'm still struggling with this. Now, I'm getting the expired session within seconds of opening a thread or composing a new PM.

Would you mind putting-together a KB article/FAQ to configure the IIS6 application pool properly? I dug-around in the KB and couldn't find anything specific.

Here's how I have the app pool configured. This is a dedicated pool for the forum:

The SQL 2008 R2 (web) engine is running on the same localhost, so time shouldn't be a problem.

I've tried storing the session data in the DB, and I'm using the default cookie path.

I truly appreciate your assistance.

- Jeff

Make sure you also have Windows 2003 SP2 installed as I recall some issues with Windows 2003 that would cause application pools to crash if there was Access Databases running on the server.

Code generating the error:

LINE 2018 is 

Hope this information helps the developper to fix this.

Thanks

Max

The EVENT LOG is a good place to check if your web application is not having enough ressources.

I am having Sessions Timeout frequently , maybe because of a lack RAM and this EVENT LOG entry suggest that it is why the recycling is going on an on - creating timeouts.

I decided 3 days ago to upgrade to a 16GB RAM server ;-)

I might have to re-try SQL Sessions now and report status later.

A forum with 150 active users we would consider low usage and host it on a shared server and not expect it to make much of an impact on resources.

After 2 hours, following a recycle, it runs at 600MB RAM with Sessions not in SQL.

Maybe your it can run at 300MB but with SQL Sessions active ?

The advantage of using the database though is if the app pool recycles the session data that is stored in the database is not dropped.

600MB still seems like an awful lot. I've just looked at a forum here on a Win2k8 R2 server with 198 active users at present, app pool recycles at 5am, and it is currently using 185MB of memory.