Mobile users cannot view YouTube videos on 10.13
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Topic: Mobile users cannot view YouTube videos on 10.13
Posted By: iSec
Subject: Mobile users cannot view YouTube videos on 10.13
Date Posted: 04 December 2012 at 6:24am
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Forum users have lost their ability to view YouTube videos on their mobile devices when browsing the forum. Is there something I have to do on my end to fix this? So far, I have two users on iOS devices that are having this issue (iPhone/iPad). ------------- "When it gets dark enough, you can see the stars" -Charles A. Beard |
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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 04 December 2012 at 10:33am
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That is the problem with Apples walled garden where only what they want will run. Apple do not support Flash so no embedded YouTube videos, no image uploading, no WYSIWYG Editor, it's a very limited platform. ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |
Posted By: iSec
Date Posted: 04 December 2012 at 1:10pm
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It worked on WWF 10.12 with no issues though... ------------- "When it gets dark enough, you can see the stars" -Charles A. Beard |
Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 04 December 2012 at 1:16pm
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Thats odd as most people said that it was not working on 10.12 also. Web Wiz Forums uses the standard IFrame code that YouTube provide for embedding YouTube videos in to a website. The only difference is that if you have the EU Cookie Directive Compliance enabled the link is to the non cookie domain for YouTube, youtube-nocookie.com, instead of their main domain youtube.com. I did read that youtube-nocookie.com may have problems with IOS as it uses Flash and not HTML 5 for YouTube videos.
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Posted By: iSec
Date Posted: 04 December 2012 at 1:19pm
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Actually, my mistake... I skipped 10.12, didn't have that update... I went from the previous update 10.11 or whatever before 10.12 and went directly to 10.13.... If that makes any difference. ------------- "When it gets dark enough, you can see the stars" -Charles A. Beard |
Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 04 December 2012 at 1:24pm
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If you are not worried about complying with the UK/EU law on Cookies you can turn off the EU Cookie compliance from the admin area. The embedded YouTube videos will use the YouTube.com domain for the IFrame instead which I believe will then use HTML 5 instead of Flash that is used on the non cookie youtube-nocookie.com domain. The problem is that Apples walled garden only works with what Apple want, and Flash unfortunately is one of many things Apple refuse to allow on their devices
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Posted By: iSec
Date Posted: 04 December 2012 at 1:34pm
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Yup... I have that turned off, and last night I logged in to make sure that it was turned off. I just double checked:  ------------- "When it gets dark enough, you can see the stars" -Charles A. Beard |
Posted By: iSec
Date Posted: 04 December 2012 at 2:08pm
Bruce, I still have the older version running... And it still works. Please see the following screenshot: ------------- "When it gets dark enough, you can see the stars" -Charles A. Beard |
Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 04 December 2012 at 2:57pm
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YouTube updated the way you can use their service for embedding content. We are only following their guidelines. No one here has an Apple device to test this in and to be honest would not wish to buy anything from such an unethical company. If you use an Android device not only does YouTube work, but as you can use other bowers that are not based on Safari's AppleWebKit you also get the added benefit of being able to use the WYSIWYG Post Editor and being able to upload images. None of which you can do with Apple.
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Posted By: iSec
Date Posted: 04 December 2012 at 3:41pm
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Bruce, I get what you're saying, but here is the thing. I have just made a test post with a YouTube video in it, and the results are as follows: If you browse the older version of the forum (v10.11) on an iPhone: You can see the video If you browse the newer version of the forum (v10.13) on an iPhone: You cannot see the video. In both, im viewing the same exact post. --> Here is my question for you: Does having friendly URLs affect this in anyway? That's the only difference I can see between the old and the new version. If it's causing it, how do I disable friendly URLs that end with .html?
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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 04 December 2012 at 4:00pm
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Version 10.11 embed the YouTube video as a shockwave-flash, which should not work on IOS where Apple has banned Flash support. Version 10.13 and 10.14 embed YouTube video using an IFrame with YouTube then controlling how the video is delivered within the IFrame. This should allow YouTube to work with mobile devices as YouTube then decide how they wish to deliver the content, using Flash or HTML 5. The code is in functions/functions_format_post.asp if you want to have a look at the code in the function formatYouTube which is called on the fly to display YouTube within posts.
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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 04 December 2012 at 4:04pm
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The page below may explain the problem, seems that it depends if your posters are trying to include other parameters in their YouTube links:- http://fuzzyraygun.com/2012/03/youtube-iframe-embeds-not-working-on-ios-devices-fix/ ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |
Posted By: iSec
Date Posted: 04 December 2012 at 4:07pm
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Bruce, You may find this strange, but I have replaced that function with the function in version 10.11 and it worked. I used the following: strBuildYouTube = "<object width=""560"" height=""350""><param name=""movie"" value=""" & strYouTubeLink & """ /><param name=""allowScriptAccess"" value=""never"" /><param name=""allowNetworking"" value=""internal"" /><param name=""wmode"" value=""transparent"" /><embed src=""" & strYouTubeLink & """ type=""application/x-shockwave-flash"" allowScriptAccess=""never"" allowNetworking=""internal"" wmode=""transparent"" width=""560"" height=""350""></embed></object>" Since this is a working solution, do you think maybe platform detection could be added in later versions and based on whether it's iOS or not display it using the above format and the new format as well? ------------- "When it gets dark enough, you can see the stars" -Charles A. Beard |
Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 04 December 2012 at 4:13pm
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That would be a tricky as apart from yourself all other feedback is that the older Flash embed format did not work in IOS as Apple have officially said they will not allow Flash on their devices. Unless you have jail breaked your device to install Flash on it. ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |
Posted By: iSec
Date Posted: 04 December 2012 at 4:17pm
No, my iPhone is not jailbroken... I suggest you test it sometime if you get a chance to visit your local Apple store and use one of their demo devices to browse...  P.S. I appreciate your patience and prompt responses. You're the best! ------------- "When it gets dark enough, you can see the stars" -Charles A. Beard |
Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 04 December 2012 at 4:33pm
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Don't think there are any, if there is I have never seen one. ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |
Posted By: iSec
Date Posted: 04 December 2012 at 4:36pm
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Looks like there may be other outlets that sell them in Poole like this one: http://locate.apple.com/uk/en/storetype/?s=2&a=poole" rel="nofollow - https://locate.apple.com/uk/en/storetype/?s=2&a=poole ------------- "When it gets dark enough, you can see the stars" -Charles A. Beard |