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Topic: AOL AOL AOL multi AOL proublem :(
Posted By: Pure P10
Subject: AOL AOL AOL multi AOL proublem :(
Date Posted: 29 May 2003 at 9:35am

Hi everyone,

 

Just a quick question, how can I stop AOL members appearing more than once on web wiz forums?

Any help would be great

Pure P10



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Posted By: vdub
Date Posted: 29 May 2003 at 10:34am

That would be hard.

You can try and block AOL users

AOL Uses a proxy and one AOL user can have a new IP-Address for everyhit. If you have 20 graphics on a page an AOL user could load it with 20 IP-Address.



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Posted By: vdub
Date Posted: 29 May 2003 at 10:37am

You souldnt block reading from guests. Thats how you make membors is be guests reading your forums first

 



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Posted By: Pure P10
Date Posted: 29 May 2003 at 10:38am

I have made a whos online mod but AOL users show up three times insted of one

This only happends with AOL



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Posted By: 808Rider
Date Posted: 29 May 2003 at 11:06am
I think maybe you can check for the user and not allow a matching name to appear more than once.

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Posted By: Pure P10
Date Posted: 29 May 2003 at 11:09am

How do i do that?

I am not a ASP expert i can adapt ASP to my needs and that is about it (I am still lerning)



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Posted By: ljamal
Date Posted: 29 May 2003 at 11:53am
Before a user is added to the active list you should check that the user isn't already on the list. The current list, I believe relies on IP address.

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Posted By: whittibo
Date Posted: 29 May 2003 at 7:59pm

I am not sure this applies to this.. but on a forum I was a member of.. I suspected someone of having multipul ID's.. and ran a bunch of IP nubmers.. and found that like 25 out of 100 members all had the same IP number!  OMG.. I was shocked to find out that all these people were the same person! 

I called AOL, and found out that they use the same neighborhood IP or something like that, and every AOL user would have one of only a few IPs.   I signed up for the trial of AOL, and posted on my old forum, and sure enough, I had the same IP as the other 25 people did.

I am not sure how all that works, but also found out about "hidden proxys".. and it pretty much told me that if someone wanted in bad enough, they could do it.  I am no scientist.. and not even all that skilled with computer stuff.. but knew there was a way, and found it.  So if I could do it, there are loads of others who are doing it. 

I signed on to my old forum as three different people, and even on high alert, they never knew I was one and the same.. good for the user.. bad for the admin..



Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 30 May 2003 at 2:14am

There is no effective way of ever tracking anyone on the Internet, you can also get tools that will hide your IP address, also if your ISP uses NAT, proxy server, etc. you will share your IP address with thousands of other users.

Also the way HTTP works (thats the protocol that web pages are sent by) is a stateless protocol, meaning that once the page is downloaded the connection to the server is dropped, os the server doesn't know if the person has left the site or is simply reading the page.

This means that there is no effective way of tracking users or being 100% sure who a user is.

You have to get around this by relying onthings like cookies and IP addresses to track users, which is not 100% and can simply be got arund by anyone who wishes.

In the forum you can try to stop the same person sighning up more than once by doing things like turning on email activation, this will only allow an email account to be used by one users when signing up, but again this can be got around by any determined user.



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Posted By: Pure P10
Date Posted: 30 May 2003 at 2:34am

You all have the wrong idea of what i am asking this is not a security issue just when "Member1" who uses IE signs on everything is fine but when "Member 2" who uses AOL signs on as well I get the following

"Member 1 Member 2 Member 2 Member 2"

So this is not a security issue just an anoying one

Pure P10

Go to the site and you might see what I mean

www.purep10.co.uk/forum



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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 30 May 2003 at 2:41am

If you seach the forum this issue has come up before and somewhere there is a solution to it that has been placed in the next version of teh forum.



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Posted By: Carls Dad
Date Posted: 08 September 2003 at 9:29pm

I have this same problem with a single persons account showing up several times when they are online. I have searched and cannot find any solution. Is there one?

FYI runing 7.1 SQL 



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Posted By: ctscott
Date Posted: 09 September 2003 at 8:42am
found this possible solution via search: http://forums.webwiz.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=1247 - http://forums.webwiz.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=1247


Posted By: Carls Dad
Date Posted: 09 September 2003 at 8:07pm

Is that code added to the existing code or does it replace existing code? I have tried to figure it out, but I have not had any luck.



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