I am currently testing a new WYSIWYG Editor on this fourm that adds some new features such as a colour palette, and spell checking using ieSpell.

This new version as well as still supporting Windows IE5+ now also supports Mozilla 1.3+

So if you have Mozilla please test out the new WYSIWYG Editor under Mozilla to see if it works correctly. Please don't report any formatting errors when trying to edit posts created using the WYSIWYG Editor as this is not completed yet.

ok its good but when u load the colour pallete you cant get out of it unless u click a colour...

When I click on the spell checker i get a pop up that says ieSpell not detected. Click OK to download page but when i click OK nothing happens..............

got it, i turned off my pop up blocker and it worked  

usually my pop up blocker never blocks the pop ups from the forum...

thanks.

Maybe the color selection box should show only when you mouseover, like in most major software. Also is there another spell checker? This one is only for IE, and it doesn't come with IE, so you have to install it and that is annoying.

Edit: Also, can you make the page so that when you select a color, the page doesn't refresh?

Edit 2: I found some good spell checkers on aspin that use Word. I think more people have word installed then the current spell checker.
http://www.aspin.com/func/search?tree=aspin&qry=spell+checker&cat - http://www.aspin.com/func/search?tree=aspin&qry=spell+checker&cat =

Hello.. this is pretty cool.. so I had to check it out for myself.. cause LORD knows I could use a spell checker!

HUMM.. I might be lame, but the spell checker wanted me to download something, but only gave me French or German. 

Good job -borg- on implementing more stuff! A spell checker rocks!

I think a spell checker is cool and understand the need for a 3rd party app to assist. However, I think you (all of us) are gonna have to figure out a way to educate users on ieSpell. Simply put, some users have trouble with copy/paste much less being prompted to download and install an app. Maybe it needs to be an optional feature controlled in the admin?

Of course, I know have ieSpell installed on my pcs~~

The problems with the colour pallete are now fixed so the page won't jump if the cursor is not within the text area when selecting it. Also now when you move the mouse back to the text area the pallete will disappear.

I've looked at spell checkers using Word and found that not only are they difficult to implement but if someone desn't have Word installed it costs allot of money to purchase it.

isSpell is free and simple to install, also whittibo mentioned it is only avaialble in French and German, but if you check the page more closly all the mirror sites just above these links are for the English version.

If I can find away to implement both word and isSpell I will do so, but at the moment isSpell seems to be the simplest and work very well with the forum.

Very nice indeed with the color palet. Haven't tested the spell checker though.

My comments/questions are:

• It takes more time to load the message form now (something like 2 secs more on my 128 m/bit conection). Not much, but maybe still worth thinking about.
• Will this editor be in v 7.02?
  

The new editor is a heavily modified version of the WYSIWYG Editor form the following site that you can download:-

http://www.kevinroth.com/rte/demo.htm - http://www.kevinroth.com/rte/demo.htm

This in turn is a heavily modified version of the WYSIWYG Editor from Web Wiz Forums.

Thre reason why it takes longer to download is that the JavaScript include file with all the code has gone from 50 lines to 160 lines of code to make it corss browser compatible and also add the new features, this adds an extra 5kb but your browser should cache this file, aslo there are 3 extra buttons that require optimizing that need to be downloaded.

If it works correctly this editor will be in version 7.02.

 is the wrong icon for a orderd list

WAS the wrong icon

Doggone!  Very nice color picker!    I've had numerous requests for a spell checker and always recommended iespell on my forum, but this will be much more user friendly.  An excellent addition to an already excellent WYSIWYG editor!  Fantastic job, borg!

Jim

IE 5 didn't implement the Rich Text Editor to W3C standards, it was changed by IE5.5, and to get it to work with new browsers supporting these standards all the code had to be re-written. I have changed the code to detect if you are using IE5.5+ now so anyone using IE 5 or below you will have to use the standard editor.

I have also made a new colour palette if you would like to test it out, it's has more colours and is made to look and work in the same sort of style as in Dreamweaver.

-boRg-

that about the insertion of tables, I think  this not complicated to make...

borg what Page this Editor use ?  ,, and whan it will Realse?

I'm quite please with the colour palette I've made and can't stop playing with it

I've also added some new forum codes that you may want to play with, you can see them by clicking the 'Forum Codes' link at the bottom of the post editor.

You ca now quote messages without the need of also putting in a username of who you are quoting

You can now also use code block tags 
 for displaying programming code or fixed width data

The forum codes for font colours has also changed so you can now also use hex values for colours instead of just the 16 colours that where available previously.

spell check.. cool.. i just had to download the ieSpell ..

the boss wrote: spell check.. cool.. i just had to download the ieSpell ..

Borg, this new editor is fantastic!! 

Jim

The old editor was not compatible with W3C standards so has been dumped so that it is compatible with all the new browsers that are being made Rich Text Enabled, so I'm afraid if you are using IE5 you will have to update to a newer version.

For other issues not related to testing this editor please open a new topic, but deleting posts is disabled.

I think the first version of the new dropdown color palette you made was VERY nice. It was more simple, but still had the fancy pallette-thingy - it had all the colors you needed!

Now it looks overdone! How many colors have you added? Too many, if you ask me. Come on, it's just for text editing. How many colors do you need for text editing? I don't think it neither looks nor works very well right now.

But if you're just on playground at the moment, then just continue. I just hope this "look" won't be the final result.

Zamal wrote: Personally, I too liked the first color palette better then the current one

me too!

The colour picker is great!

I would not change it that much - The only thing that I could think of that would be a nice is if it was like the Fireworks colour picker that allows you to pick from a number of popular colours and displays the hash code (like yours), however it also gives you the option to type in a hash code.

That is a good point, I had not thought of that!

I think it is fine then, 8 hours well spent

Now How Can I Have The Same Editor As The One Here ?
I Have The Pld One Wich Comes With v7.01

i'm using ie 5 and this is great! :)

only thing i couldnt get to work is the emoticons - more... bit - clicking them does nothing.

Good Editor!

sam- wrote: Now How Can I Have The Same Editor As The One Here ? I Have The Pld One Wich Comes With v7.01

Still No Answer :S

sam- wrote: sam- wrote: Now How Can I Have The Same Editor As The One Here ? I Have The Pld One Wich Comes With v7.01 Still No Answer :S

Just be patient and wait till 7.02 is released

-boRg- wrote: I don't want to change the colour picker completly as I quite like the part that shows the colour at the top and hash code, it took me 8 hours to write, so how many colours do you think it should have?

On one of my computers the color palette is very slow right now. It wasn't slow with the first "palette-version".

How many colors? I don't know, how about 30?
That would be fine, if you ask me. Rememer, that this is just a forum and the colors are only used for text-editing in small forum posts. 216 colors, where most of them is just small variations of already excisting colors is too much. You won't notice these variations in forum posts.

If it wasn't because the text editor is more slow than earlier, I probably wouldn't take this subject up for discusion. But it is a lot slower now, and therefor; why not cut the color-choices down a little - who actually needs 216 colors for forum posts? Who actually cares about 45 "species" of the color green?

30 colors on a palette (6×6 colors) would look very nice and more stylish than now! I really don't think anyone would ask for more colors.

Just my $0,25.

Zamal wrote: sam- wrote: sam- wrote: Now How Can I Have The Same Editor As The One Here ? I Have The Pld One Wich Comes With v7.01 Still No Answer :S Just be patient and wait till 7.02 is released

Cant Wait

By The Way .. Would You Take Alook Here , I Couldnt Past Here With The Same Effect , But This Effect Really Cool , Maybe It Could Be Incluaded In V7.02

http://forums.webwiz.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=3394&PN=1 - http://forums.webwiz.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=3394&PN=1

-boRg- wrote: They use filters that are specific to IE, also it makes the text hard to read so won't be included in the next version.

But I Still Think Its Cool & Quiet Clear

Borg - you might want to take a look at this WYSIWYG-editor. It is cross-browser compatible and have loads of features:

http://www.interactivetools.com/iforum/Open_Source_C3/htmlArea_v3.0_-_Alpha_Release_F14/htmlArea_3%3A_Alpha_release_P7101/ - http://www.interactivetools.com/iforum/Open_Source_C3/htmlArea_v3.0_-_Alpha_Release_F14/htmlArea_3%3A_Alpha_release_P7101/

speder wrote: Borg - you might want to take a look at this WYSIWYG-editor.

Wow, yeah it certantly has some very nice features. I like the "push-button-effect", which forexample indicates if you write in "bold" - just like in word!  I have always missed that effect from the editor this boards uses. You really should check it out boRg

By the way, I like the color palete more and more now. The only thing I don't like about now is the grey top color. But I guess this will be possible to change in the skinfile.

Commander wrote: and as for the HTMLarea thing, doesnt it have a little too many things for a forum post editor?  + it does take a while to load in Mozilla...

Yeah it does, but there are a few very nice features that very well could be transfered to this editor (perhaps the "button push down" effect ).

This WWG-editor is very nice now, it just misses the button-effect, then it would be PERFECT

From Mozilla 1.3 I can't even put the cursor inside the Edit box...

My mistake... I was using Firebird (same icon and look and feel as Mozilla)

It works great!!

P.S. The htmlArea editor from Interactive tools looks wicked cool!!! Borg, you should really consider it

Key Features

• Users can create formatted content without having to know any HTML code.
• It looks and works like a Word Processor.
• Works with any <textarea> field.
• It only takes a few minutes to convert your existing form fields over to htmlArea.
• Works with any server-side software because it's just HTML. Whether you're using Perl, Java, ASP, PHP, or something we've never even heard of, htmlArea can deliver HTML content.
• Completely free, don't pay ever!
• Open source license, modify htmlArea to do whatever you need.

I had a look at htmlArea not long ago but found there version that is supposed to run on Mozilla was very buggy and didn't work.

Anyway, whats the point in using theres with all there copyright etc. on it when I can write one more suited to my needs in quater the amount of code and less buggy.

Ok ... the Spell Check work fine ... i tryed and it work, ( and more .. a take the freedom to edit the code of the page ( or steal  as you like ) and copy the image of Spell .. and follow the Java Script ( on v 7.01 the file is called ie_message_form_js.asp but now is called ret_message_form_js.asp why it ? ), and copy to my ie_message_form_js.asp the new code ). and put on v7.01 the spell check and from other message of this forum, i included the list numeric together, list button.

But i can´t make the some thing with the pallet color

On this forum the color pallet work fine and the spell also.

But when you think publish a new version ?? .. and .. how migrate the users and post from old 7.xx version to new 7.02 database ?

Or only you make change into the asp code and not into the database ?.

Y have a lot of mods on my actually 7.00 release

But the changes that you tell here .. work fine.

-boRg- wrote: Anyway, whats the point in using theres with all there copyright etc. on it when I can write one more suited to my needs in quater the amount of code and less buggy.

Yeah, I guess you're right about that. But how about adding the "button-effect" feature, now you're updating the editor anyway? It would deffently make the editor look much more "word-like" and therefor more userfriendly to many users.

I have stayed away from making it look word like, as it looks so old and grey and boring now.

It's a text box editor not a word processor. I'd rather stay away from looking like Windows and make it fit in more with the Internet.

I see what you meen, boRg. But I'm not saying that you should change the look of the WWG-editor. I'm just saying it would be very nice if it had buttons with mouse-over-effect, which "pushes" the buttons down. So if you forexample have selected the tool "bold" then the button "B" would be pushed down - that way you can always see which tools you have turned on/off in the editor.

That's all - I'm not saying that you should add more "word-features" or change the look. I'm justing asking for a little mouse-over effect on the buttons

But if you don't like my sugestion, then I'll just stick with what we have now...after all that's not too bad either

This is really cool.  I like it a lot

Hmm, i must have this one on my forum because nothing looks different. You might want to make it so that you dont have to hold shift+enter to page break...

netscape 7.1 was released yestersay?

why the hell did it ask me to update to it ages ago then?

guess thats why i got errors when it tried to update

(only got netscape to see wot my sites look like in it)

You're probally confused between 7.01 and 7.1, I know when I saw it I was confused as to whether it was a new release or not.

But it is a older build of Mozilla still, so you are better downloading the latest Mozilla build.