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Topic: ASP Developers or for fun?
Posted By: jrockfl
Subject: ASP Developers or for fun?
Date Posted: 17 June 2003 at 10:25pm

I was just curious to know if people here worked as ASP developers or just learning this stuff for fun.

I'm a CF developer and I just took a new job and the use ASP, so it looks like I will be learning ASP for this job.

Also, do you memorize this code after awhile?? Or do you do a lot of copy and paste??




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Posted By: Bullschmidt
Date Posted: 18 June 2003 at 2:33am

I'm an ASP developer but the stuff can be fun at times especially when something gets done that looked like it was going to be tricky.

I do consult the language reference and my own private knowledgebase now and then (definitely don't have it all memorized).

And here are some of my favorite online ASP resources:

Here are a few good ASP sites:
o ASP101 (See the Samples Section) - http://www.asp101.com - http://www.asp101.com
o 4GuysFromRolla - http://www.4guysfromrolla.com - http://www.4guysfromrolla.com
o Microsoft VBScript Language Reference - http://msdn.microsoft.com/scripting/default.htm?/scripting/VBscript/doc/vbscripttoc.htm - http://msdn.microsoft.com/scripting/default.htm?/scripting/VBScript/doc/vbscripttoc.htm

And the following newsgroup is good:
microsoft.public.inetserver.asp.general

Or for a "quick and dirty" generic ASP solution to putting database tables on the Web that just requires setting up a configuration page for each table or query and uploading the database to the Web as long as you have an autonumber field in each table (and as a more advanced issue you'll probably sometime in the future want to create login capabilities), perhaps try something like this:
GenericDB by Eli Robillard
http://www.genericdb.com - http://www.genericdb.com



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Posted By: MorningZ
Date Posted: 18 June 2003 at 5:43am

I broke into the programming biz using a program called "Tango", which is tag-based like CF and was super fast to learn... one day, the company who made it (Pervasive) suddenly decided to pull the plug on support... so in August of 2000 the company i used to work for switched to ASP, in which the meeting I actually asked "what ASP meant" since i knew absolutely nothing about it.....

but things worked out
- Got a few personal clients going in ASP
- Run a 26,000+ member web site based on the Acura Integra
- By day, do ASP/Javascript/SQL/XSL
- When time has allowed i've been re-writing my Integra site in VB.NET

IF you are just now getting into ASP, i'd suggest see if you can instead get into ASP.NET, its soooooooooo much more powerful, something are a little getting used to, but all in all, its superior than anything out there

Oh, and after almost 3 years of ASP, copy and paste still good, lol.....

and one more page to add to Paul's links above:
I swear by: http://www.w3schools.com - http://www.w3schools.com , excellent site



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Posted By: jrockfl
Date Posted: 18 June 2003 at 6:07am

Thank you both for replying. I will check those links that you have provided me. I am very familiar with the whole concept, just have to learn this new syntax. I will look into .NET too.

Thanks again!



Posted By: Gullanian
Date Posted: 18 June 2003 at 10:26am
However depending on how good you are at coding already, classic ASP is good for new coders to start on, .NET is hard to go straight into without any prior experience.


Posted By: MorningZ
Date Posted: 18 June 2003 at 10:29am

yeah, but why waste time learning a language that's 4 years old now?

if someone is starting from ground zero, might as well start with the latest and greatest....



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Posted By: Gary
Date Posted: 18 June 2003 at 10:34am
I've heard that in some cases, non-asp folks can find it easier to pick up .net than those who have been using 'classic' asp for a few years.


Posted By: ljamal
Date Posted: 18 June 2003 at 11:17am
Originally posted by MorningZ MorningZ wrote:

yeah, but why waste time learning a language that's 4 years old now?


if someone is starting from ground zero, might as well start with the latest and greatest....



Because in some instances ASP is faster to develop than ASP.NET. Faster means cheaper and with most clients cheaper is better.

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Posted By: MorningZ
Date Posted: 18 June 2003 at 11:29am

yeah, and sometimes php might be faster to develop than asp, and cold fusion would be faster than php, etc, etc...

but i'm talking about making yourself as a programmer more marketable for the future.....  stuff like WebServices, XML backends, stuff like that, and while all possible in non-.NET land, is super easy and is what .NET is all about....

but of course there are situations where one tool/language might be better than another depending on programming-knowledge/project-scope/etc....



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Posted By: ljamal
Date Posted: 18 June 2003 at 11:56am
I stay away from Cold Fusion simply because I have found that it doesn't scale well.

Often times when developing there is a some limitation placed on the project such as it has to be hosted on Unix or ISS or whatever, so I have found that a broad programming background (or access to a broad base of programmers) is necessary. I recommend ASP and PHP simply because you can develop with a web server and a simple notepad. ASP.NET development is much, much easier with the .NET Studio. For developers on a budget PHP and ASP are strong and inexpensive development options.

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http://www.ljamal.com/" rel="nofollow - L. Jamal Inc : Web/ Print Design and ASP Programming



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