getting started with html
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Topic: getting started with html
Posted By: zenith
Subject: getting started with html
Date Posted: 28 August 2003 at 9:37pm
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hey I was just wondering if there's anybody out there that can help me get started with creating a webpage with html. I'm a student thats just begining and i have no idea where to start!!
if anyone can point me in the right direction to learn how to write html i would be very appreciative!!
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I'm feeling a bit confused!!Replies:
Posted By: Croco Dylan
Date Posted: 29 August 2003 at 5:33am
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Try an easy WYSIWYG editor, such as Frontpage so you can easily create something. Then see which html coding is generated. Not sure 'bout your question. Can you be more specific as to what you want? ------------- Take a walk on the wild sight |
Posted By: michael
Date Posted: 29 August 2003 at 7:10am
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If you are starting from the beginning I would gat myself a book first, which you can also use as a reference. Look into something like HTML in 21 days from Sams, they are ususally good, cheap and easy to comprehend. There are tons of sites out there that may teach you but I find most sites are not structured enough to get you all the way through. ------------- http://baumannphoto.com" rel="nofollow - Blog | http://mpgtracker.com" rel="nofollow - MPG Tracker |
Posted By: zenith
Date Posted: 29 August 2003 at 7:16am
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in answer to croco dylan, for the assignment, i'm not supposed to use front page, its supposed to be all my own work ------------- think big, live bigger |
Posted By: Croco Dylan
Date Posted: 29 August 2003 at 7:20am
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Okay, didn't know it was an assignment. And must agree with Michael too. Lots of quick study books available. ------------- Take a walk on the wild sight |
Posted By: KCWebMonkey
Date Posted: 29 August 2003 at 8:05am
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Here is where i started: http://www.htmlgoodies.com/primers/basics.html - http://www.htmlgoodies.com/primers/basics.html and i used Notepad for about the first year of coding... |
Posted By: Croco Dylan
Date Posted: 29 August 2003 at 8:57am
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You might find this one useful too http://www.htmlhelp.com/ - http://www.htmlhelp.com/ ------------- Take a walk on the wild sight |
Posted By: abhinav
Date Posted: 29 August 2003 at 2:35pm
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get a beginners book. Practice practice practice .. learn css and again practice ... ;) ------------- http://www.sgkabra.com - Accountancy Firm | http://www.mp3oldies.com.ar - Mp3 Oldies | http://www.best-mp3software.com - Mp3 Software |
Posted By: Croco Dylan
Date Posted: 30 August 2003 at 3:59am
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Lots of useful css examples at http://www.w3schools.com/css/css_examples.asp - http://www.w3schools.com/css/css_examples.asp ------------- Take a walk on the wild sight |
Posted By: MadDog
Date Posted: 30 August 2003 at 10:32am
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I learned with a book called "Teach yourself HTML in 24 hours".
After about 2 weeks of learning i knew enough to never look at the book again... 2 years later, look where i am now  ------------- http://www.iportalx.net" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: zenith
Date Posted: 30 August 2003 at 8:54pm
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Thanks everyone for all your help
I really appreciate it ------------- think big, live bigger |
Posted By: Diep-Vriezer
Date Posted: 04 September 2003 at 3:03pm
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HTML is really easy, but you have to know it from the ground on. Downloading an eBook was the solution for me, but a good internet tutorial (like the links already submitted) also work just fine. You should start with understanding the basics of html, <head> and <body>. Once you did that, just go on slowly and add more stuff untill you've got a complex page. Then, goto CSS wich is the better then <font> tags (you'll understand once you get there). This is bit useless, but I also wanted to be part of it ------------- Gone.. |
Posted By: Croco Dylan
Date Posted: 13 September 2003 at 3:32am
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A minor issue, as this is something easily done wrong ... in which case it might take forever to find the error. Don't you just hate it when you can't figure out why somet'ing ain't workin', and afterwards you know it was a really small thing you have overlooked and overlooked again. The doc type declaration is the first line and tells a browser what type of docement the file is. All the proper declarations and lots more can be found at W3C. Be aware that the doc type declaration is case sensitive. This is easily done wrong! Read a bit more about the W3C at their own site and you'll see why that's a very useful site. Whether for docs, tutorials or online validators. The doc type declaration is not required in all browsers, but if you use it, be sure to use the right upper/lowercase. I would strongly advice to always use declarations and always validate your html. Sloppy (careless/dirty) code might work just for now or in specific browsers, but you won't find out it's sloppy until you validate your code. Meaning that if you don't validate it, at any point in the future something might just stop working (in any or all browsers) without a clear reason. It'll take you forever to find the error. Needless to say this is very frustrating and a total waste of time. Spend just a little more time now, so that you KNOW that all used html code is valid and complete. A nice place to start at W3C is http://validator.w3.org/ - http://validator.w3.org/ ------------- Take a walk on the wild sight |
Posted By: fffworld
Date Posted: 15 September 2003 at 4:56am
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I think HTML is too easy to learn because it isn't a programing language, it is only a markup language. So, start learning HTML with a GUI tool and continue with DHTML + JavaScript (or JScript). ------------- Come once again and love me http://mac.com.vn now coming |
Posted By: Diep-Vriezer
Date Posted: 15 September 2003 at 7:30am
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Also true, since HTML is THE language you need to learn in order to create websites and web applications. Once you've mastered HTML, try the programming of a site. ------------- Gone.. |
Posted By: Bluefrog
Date Posted: 19 September 2003 at 9:24am
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Webmonkey is another good resource that has lots of examples and is really easy to follow. Google it - it's a part of the Lycos network. I'd suggest getting yourself a good text editor like Editplus or Ultra Edit. They will really accelerate your understanding of HTML. Most work just like MS Word. Click the 'bold' button, and you get 'bold' tags (e.g. <b>whatever</b>). It's pretty simple to understand when you can see it done in code just by clicking a button. Oh - and learn to use the F5 key...
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Posted By: KCWebMonkey
Date Posted: 19 September 2003 at 9:28am
Don't forget Ctrl+F5 for stubborn pages. 
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Posted By: Bluefrog
Date Posted: 19 September 2003 at 9:49am
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Very true. |
KCWebMonkey wrote:Posted By: Diep-Vriezer
Date Posted: 19 September 2003 at 10:07am
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Also, it is handy to use Cascading Style Sheets (CSS) instead of <font> tags. I used font tags before I started building serius sites, but some clients may have turned the <font> stuff off, so to be sure that the page loads exactly as you want it to, use CSS. It's not really difficult to learn, since it has pretty basic syntax. CSS is also handy when you have a lot of pages wich use the same colors ed. so when you want to change the layout, you just have to change the color's in the *.css file. ------------- Gone.. |
Posted By: Bluefrog
Date Posted: 23 September 2003 at 7:06am
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CSS isn't really an option anymore for good design. It's pretty much mandatory, but if you're starting to learn HTML, I'd put CSS off for a bit unless you understand markup languages fairly well. One thing that is a bit of a sidetrack but might help, is to read a bit of the history of SGML. But for god's sake... don't bother learning it. |
Posted By: Diep-Vriezer
Date Posted: 23 September 2003 at 7:58am
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Idd, no way! Well, I think you should start with <font> tags, and then slowly replace them with CSS markup language. CSS also has alot more to offer than basic HTML. ------------- Gone.. |
Posted By: KCWebMonkey
Date Posted: 23 September 2003 at 10:23am
| I learned CSS and HTML at the same time, never really bothered with HTML formatting much. It's not hard to learn both at the same time because they work so well together. |
Posted By: fernan82
Date Posted: 29 September 2003 at 10:26pm
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The best way to learn for me is to look at the website's source code and see how they do it... To learn the basics I used frontpage, there you can do basic stuff and then look at the html... but you should use it just to get an idea, not really to learn from it as frontpage's HTML only looks right on IE and it's very crappy too... |
Posted By: Diep-Vriezer
Date Posted: 29 September 2003 at 11:50pm
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Yes, use Dreamweaver MX instead. That's a better one. Frontpage is only good to see how a page structure MIGHT look like. Problem with Frontpage is: they put so many useless crap in the page. Like CSS. If I have 3 cell's, all need to look the same way, Frontpage just copies the <style> attribute, instead of making a new class, wich is better. Also, the Frontpage ' Extentions ' are really messed up. I never get one of these to work, and besides, I like to make stuff myself, so FP was not really my thing. One positive thing about FP: It design's quite well. Making <table>'s is very easy to do, as well as changing some important attributes, but simply opening the properties window (like most, but who cares). Also, who uses Netscape, Konquerer or Opera anyway? ------------- Gone.. |
Posted By: fernan82
Date Posted: 02 October 2003 at 10:21pm
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Yea, that's what I meant, just use it to get an idea.... Then by looking at other pages source you can learn pretty much everything... ------------- FeRnAN http://www.danasoft.com/"> 
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Posted By: anandsoft
Date Posted: 15 October 2003 at 9:23am
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hello, You can also try the html validator at: http://validator.w3.org/ - http://validator.w3.org/ This helps in conforming to the HTML standards. Usually, we get to know many coding mistakes in the web page after going through the html validator. ------------- http://web-hosting.anandsoft.com/ - web hosting http://website-design.anandsoft.com/ - website design seo optimization< |
Posted By: Bluefrog
Date Posted: 15 October 2003 at 4:44pm
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The W3 HTML validator is a great learning tool, but don't just accept what it tells you blindly. What is valid and what works are often not the same (unfortunately). ------------- http://renegademinds.com/" rel="nofollow - Renegade Minds - Guitar Software http://renegademinds.com/Default.aspx?tabid=65" rel="nofollow - Slow Down Music |