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Topic: Domain ownership
Posted By: KCWebMonkey
Subject: Domain ownership
Date Posted: 18 September 2003 at 9:12am

I wanted input on how people manage their clients domains.

Do you guys set it up as where they own it themselves and pay for it themselves or what?

I have a few clients where the domain is actually owned by me, and i wanted to know if i need to change it to where they own it themselves.

Thanks.




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Posted By: michael
Date Posted: 18 September 2003 at 1:30pm
They pay for it so they should own it. I don't think they are obligated to stay with you so might want to move without having to contact you (theoretically).

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Posted By: Sapien
Date Posted: 18 September 2003 at 6:32pm

What I do for domains is put a four month hold on them. This way when somebody signs up for a hosting package with a free domain, they can't just cancel the account before 30 days and transfer the domain to another server.

Probably cost a few customers, but also saves a few bucks at the same time.



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Posted By: KCWebMonkey
Date Posted: 18 September 2003 at 8:00pm
So, should i just tell them to set it up themselves? I don't think that will fly with some of them, as they are somewhat computer illiterate. Should I just sign it up for them, under their info and Credit Card?


Posted By: Bluefrog
Date Posted: 19 September 2003 at 9:15am

WHAT ON EARTH ARE YOU THINKING?

Keep the domain yourself! Later, you can hold them for ransom! Way better than domain-squatting. If they get nasty, sell the domain to a porn company that can harness the traffic. When their customers visit... well... it's a "hard" call

Muahahaha~!

 



Posted By: KCWebMonkey
Date Posted: 19 September 2003 at 9:23am
Finally! Someone with some useful input! Can you suggest a good porn company to sell all my domains to?


Posted By: michael
Date Posted: 19 September 2003 at 9:41am
You guys are cracking me up.

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Posted By: Bluefrog
Date Posted: 19 September 2003 at 9:48am

Hell... it doesn't really matter. What these guys do it buy up old domains that have decent traffic and then just reroute it all to their own sites. Any of them will do  

Off the top of my head, try SmackMyBitchUp.com

 



Posted By: KCWebMonkey
Date Posted: 19 September 2003 at 10:11am
What really ticks me off is all the sites that UltimateSearch.com and BuyDomains.com are taking. And they ask outrageous prices for these domains and they hold on to them forever...


Posted By: dpyers
Date Posted: 20 September 2003 at 11:47am

It kind of depends upon what specific business relationship you want to have with your clients, and/or a specific client. In my situation, building websites is not my 9 to 5. I can commit to build a site at a given time, but cannot commit to being available a year from now when they want a major revision.

My business model is based around delivering turn-key sites with documentation that anyone can use to expand the site. My contract states that copyright (on layout/features, not content) and ownership is mine until final payment is received, then the whole thing goes to them.

All my sites are hosted separately (reseller hosting is a different line of business that I don't want to get into). After final payment is received, I walk them through setting up a hosting account (using WH4L lately as I get a percentage) and then take them over to Registerfly and have them set up a registration account. I then transfer my registration of the domain to them.

Domain renewal is not always smooth. Liability to renew the domain name is in their hands, not mine. I don't get sued if the renwal doesn't happen. One of my recent web hosts was using Spam Assasin which blocked registerfly. Luckily I caught the fact that reneal notices were not getting to me, but it could have been ugly.



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Posted By: Bluefrog
Date Posted: 21 September 2003 at 10:10am

Originally posted by KCWebMonkey KCWebMonkey wrote:

What really ticks me off is all the sites that UltimateSearch.com and BuyDomains.com are taking. And they ask outrageous prices for these domains and they hold on to them forever...

Which is exactly why you should hold all these domains that you own for ransom~! If everyother prick on the internet is doing it, why hold out? Do the same~! Or redirect them to http://www.hell.com - http://www.hell.com - that's a pretty cool avante garde site that won't offend anyone.



Posted By: chris-kf
Date Posted: 22 September 2003 at 4:51am

what we do is register all the clients stuff under our company CC etc... and host it all with the hosting provider that we've been working for forever, and then charge them a CC processing fee of about 8 or 10%.  this has a few benefits

1) if they mess around on payment for anything, we can just put their website on hold

2) they're more likely to return for maintenence and design services in the future

3) we can easily update security / patches / tech improvements

4) we can manage all domains from one admin acct (corporately)

 

the downside is, of course, if a client leaves we have to do all the messing around of transferring / releasing stuff.  but we charge for it. so...

c



Posted By: KCWebMonkey
Date Posted: 22 September 2003 at 7:29am
chris-kf, that's similar to what i have been doing. Do you put the registry contact as your company, or the client?


Posted By: chris-kf
Date Posted: 22 September 2003 at 3:26pm

kcwebmonkey:

we usually put ourselves as contacts ofr everything (admin / billing / etc..) figuring that if they're gonna switch they'll switch everything .  plus most of our clients are outside the u.s. and don't have credit cards and really just want someone to take care of them the whole time.  and an admin contact in the u.s. is way handier than having it be some little street no one's ever heard of in cairo.

christopher



Posted By: vijay
Date Posted: 24 September 2003 at 8:55am
I think the contract with the customer should be clear about the domain ownership. Legally, the customer should own the domain as he is paying for it (this is what the customer also thinks). Therefore, the registrant should be the customer, whereas the other contacts can be others as required. If the customer is computer illeterate (or doesn't have enough time to handle things himself), a web host can use his /her own (host's) credit card with registrant being the customer. (as the payment in turn comes from the customer).

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Posted By: zMaestro
Date Posted: 26 September 2003 at 12:20pm

Even if I registered the domain in my client name as the Registrant, Admin, Billing, ..etc, he can't transfer it by any way but after my authorization... I don't know if it is the same to you, but I have a reseller control panel from http://www.onlinenic.com/ - www.onlinenic.com allows me to change any info about any domain name I registered, and transfer it to anywhere even without their approval... i can also change any details later even the registrar name..

BUT

I register it with their names, because they are sometimes bothered if they didn't see their name in the WHOIS search, as long as i have the authority on the domain, it doesn't matter which name is written on it.




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