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Topic: Importing member user name passwords
Posted By: donaldhill
Subject: Importing member user name passwords
Date Posted: 08 December 2003 at 12:24am

I have read afew posts about this but cant seem to understand what to do.

 

Does anyone have asimple way to get user name and passworddetails and bring them in say from excell table, csv file, or access database table??

 

 




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Posted By: india
Date Posted: 08 December 2003 at 12:29am

Password are 160bit encrypted and you cannot see them. However, you can change the users password if you are a mod or admin

Usernames, you can go to the database, go to TBLAUTHOR and copy all of them.

hope this helps.....



Posted By: donaldhill
Date Posted: 08 December 2003 at 12:50am

No I dont thin kthat is what I meant.

 

I havea list of 2000 people with a user name and an existing passowrd. These are not in the web wiz forum  database. They are in another database.

 

I want to import an excell list or csv file or access database table of these data and want to put them into the web wiz table but what do I have to do to make the password encrypted?



Posted By: wistex
Date Posted: 08 December 2003 at 1:14am

You could import the information into the tblAuthors table into the appropriate columns.  But... and a big but... you have to turn off the encrypted password feature that is turned on by default.

There is a variable that you turn off somewhere, but if forgot where. 

If you do a search, you should find it.  This has come up many times already.



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Posted By: donaldhill
Date Posted: 08 December 2003 at 1:43am

thanks guys,

 

but does that turning off the encryption process mean the passwords are never encrypted?

 

What can be done to encrypt them?



Posted By: india
Date Posted: 08 December 2003 at 1:45am
Originally posted by donaldhill donaldhill wrote:

No I dont thin kthat is what I meant.

 

I havea list of 2000 people with a user name and an existing passowrd. These are not in the web wiz forum  database. They are in another database.

 

I want to import an excell list or csv file or access database table of these data and want to put them into the web wiz table but what do I have to do to make the password encrypted?

Well, then i dont think password will come. Is it phpbb forum? tell me forum name, there are converters to do this job,



Posted By: psycotik
Date Posted: 08 December 2003 at 1:48am
Which version is it that encryption started? If you find the code for the upgrade wizard you will find a way to convert passwords to hashes.


Posted By: india
Date Posted: 08 December 2003 at 1:49am
Originally posted by donaldhill donaldhill wrote:

thanks guys,

 

but does that turning off the encryption process mean the passwords are never encrypted?

*** How will you turn off encryption?
Moreover, its a security risk.
Forum v7.0 and above have pass encrypted but if you write in plain text it WILL NOT WORK.

What can be done to encrypt them?

*** my R&D says there is a way out. Like suppose you are installing a new forum. You register and put user xyz pass abc. Go to database. Notice the encryptedd form of the pass abc. then copy in all of them. so all users will get a pass of abc by default

My replies in " *** " 



Posted By: india
Date Posted: 08 December 2003 at 1:51am
Originally posted by psycotik psycotik wrote:

Which version is it that encryption started? If you find the code for the upgrade wizard you will find a way to convert passwords to hashes.


The encryption has been used for v7.0 and above.
There is a way but im not SURE whether it works or not.
if you have forum v6.x copt the userid and pass in the db and run in v6.0. then upgrade to v7.0. it should auto encrypt


Posted By: donaldhill
Date Posted: 09 December 2003 at 3:53am

I downloaded the mograting tool but since I did not have  an earlier version of 6.34 I decided to try to migrate a databse 7.01 to 7.6 and followed the procedure as mentioned in migration tool read me.

 

When I ran the migrating tool it came up with a dialogue box asking for a parameterer value. I tried -1 and that did nothing but when I used 1 it processed then came up with an error 0.

 

When I looked at the new database it had the users name and passwords transferred from the 7.01 database and all encrypted.

 

This seems to work but I havent tried to open the forum etc yet.

 

Can anyone of you who knows whats going on in this process say whether the migrating tool will work ok in this instance???

 

If it does, then everyone can move large databse rtecords of user names/passwords into a temp database and then migrate them to a real databsae as encrypted users.

 

 

And what happens to any original data and posts in the original database?

If I wanted to start with a new customer list each year but keep the forum categories etc are they unchanged?



Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 09 December 2003 at 4:03am
The upgrade tool is for version 6.x to 7.x this tool is not needed for upgrading between versions 7.x to 7.x

If you are using access version 7.x all you need to do is keep your old database and just replace the files.


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Posted By: donaldhill
Date Posted: 09 December 2003 at 4:08am

You misunderstand what I am trying to say Borg. Or rather, I am probably not explaining myself clearly enough.

 

This sis what I am trying to do.

I have alist of 1000 user names and passwords from an external database. I wish to insert these records into your forum database but the passwords are not encrypted and they need to be. Also, I plan to change the user names at yearly intervals and put them into diferent groups within the forum.

So each year I plan to import the user name and password list from external database and then place them into yopur database then migrate them into the final database as encrypted user name passwords.

My problem is to get them imported to the database encrypted.

 

(It is a school based list of names and they are bing matched to teachers so each forum can be for a class and teacher)

 

 



Posted By: Nigelo
Date Posted: 14 December 2003 at 5:56pm

Use a v6.x version of Borg's DB and copy your users/pws into the appropriate fields in tblAuthors. You may need to set some other v6.x fields in tblAuthors to their logical defaults AND paying attention to related tables (GroupId being one of them - So remember to set the Groups first!). Finally, run it through the migrator app being sure to follow instructions.

This should work but remember the migrator was designed for a standard production v6.x source and not an artificially built dataset.  



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Posted By: ljamal
Date Posted: 14 December 2003 at 9:54pm
The easiest way to get to encrypted passwords from unencrypted passwords is import the unencrypted password and then update the passwords with the encryption.

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Posted By: Nigelo
Date Posted: 16 December 2003 at 3:53pm
Precisely ljamal. That's why I described an easy way to do just that using my Migrator App which already has Borg's encryption process built in!

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Hope this helps
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Posted By: ljamal
Date Posted: 16 December 2003 at 4:48pm
Yes, but your method involves having a 6.x database which is not readily available. It's much easier to just import the usernames and passwords as plain text, generate a SALT value and then encrypt.

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Posted By: michael
Date Posted: 17 December 2003 at 7:34am
The Hash1 functions are fully VBA compatible so you can just paste the whole code into a new module in Access and Create an update query to encrypt your passwords.

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