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Topic: Problem With Active Users
Posted By: *acidic~misfit*
Subject: Problem With Active Users
Date Posted: 14 December 2003 at 5:33pm
Hey, i'm having problems with the active users part in the main page it keeps commin up that users are online that arent even registered could someone help me please?



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Posted By: maddkat
Date Posted: 14 December 2003 at 5:47pm

Im Haveing the same problem.
My site url has not even been posted yet!!!
Im still trying new stuff befor I open it.
When I went to my site on 2 occasions
there was someone in the active users list
that was not in the database.
Please help.



Posted By: wistex
Date Posted: 14 December 2003 at 11:35pm

Are you using a free web host?  Many free web hosts set-up their servers so that everyone shares the same resourses, including application variables.  This means that the active users function in version 7.6 will not work properly on most free web hosts.

Although Borg will probably kill me for recommending this, but if you really want active users then you will need SQL and version 7.51a if you are using a free web host.

Here is a breakdown of who can run what:

  • Access Database - Paid Webhost - Use WWF Version 7.6
  • Access Database - Free Webhost - Active Users Not Available
  • SQL Database - Paid Webhost - Use WWF Version 7.6
  • SQL Database - Free Webhost - Use WWF Version 7.51a

I like version 7.6 better than 7.51a, so use that where possible.

I am not sure if version 7.51a is still available for download or not.

Hopefully Borg will give us the option of using the SQL Database option or using the Application variables option in future versions.  Or if that is not the case, hopefully someone will make a mod that will bring back the SQL Database option.

If you are using the Access version and are on a free web host, you are pretty much out of luck.  Active Users will not work on your server.



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Posted By: india
Date Posted: 14 December 2003 at 11:55pm

Well, i agree with wistex.

on my free webhost too that was happening, if u use free webhost then 4get active users lists



Posted By: maddkat
Date Posted: 15 December 2003 at 6:23pm

Ok.
What if i changed the vars
that make this work to something different?
would this help any?

I am also useing a free host.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



Posted By: wistex
Date Posted: 15 December 2003 at 7:50pm

If you are using Access and a free host, you are out of luck because:

  1. Microsoft Access cannot handle the database updates necessary for the active users function if you use the database method.  Your forum database will be corrupted and you will lose data. (Version 7.51a uses the database method.)
  2. Most free web hosts share application variables between websites because of the way they have their server set-up.  This means that the application variables method of keeping track of active users will not work on these free web hosts because it will track all WWF users on that server regardless of website. (Version 7.6 uses the application variable method.)

Microsoft Access + Free Web Host = No Active Users Feature

You can run WWF without a problem on most free web hosts, but you will need to disable the active users feature in the admin forum configuration.



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Posted By: thekiwi
Date Posted: 15 December 2003 at 7:53pm
Originally posted by wistex wistex wrote:

If you are using Access and a free host, you are out of luck because:

  1. Microsoft Access cannot handle the database updates necessary for the active users function if you use the database method.  Your forum database will be corrupted and you will lose data. (Version 7.51a uses the database method.)
  2. Most free web hosts share application variables between websites because of the way they have their server set-up.  This means that the application variables method of keeping track of active users will not work on these free web hosts because it will track all WWF users on that server regardless of website. (Version 7.6 uses the application variable method.)

Microsoft Access + Free Web Host = No Active Users Feature

You can run WWF without a problem on most free web hosts, but you will need to disable the active users feature in the admin forum configuration.

Hmm .... I am more than likely wrong here ... but if I was to be using a FreeHost (Bluugghh) and I changed the anme of my Application variable to something uinque, wouldn't that result in my variable only being used by me?



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Posted By: wistex
Date Posted: 15 December 2003 at 8:05pm
Originally posted by thekiwi thekiwi wrote:

Hmm .... I am more than likely wrong here ... but if I was to be using a FreeHost (Bluugghh) and I changed the anme of my Application variable to something uinque, wouldn't that result in my variable only being used by me?

That's worth a try.  You'd have to dive into the active users fuctions to see how he does it, then modify it.

If you figure out how to do it, post the mod.  As you can see, there are many many people who need this.



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Posted By: psycotik
Date Posted: 16 December 2003 at 3:32am

Im guessing all you need to do is search for:

Application("varname")

and change it to:

Application("myforumname_varname")



Posted By: psycotik
Date Posted: 16 December 2003 at 3:37am

Just checking. It exists only in:

includes\active_users_inc.asp
admin\statistics.asp

and the name is:

Application("saryAppActiveUsers")

Change that and all will be ok (not tested)



Posted By: maddkat
Date Posted: 16 December 2003 at 12:13pm

Thanks alot for the mod.



Posted By: joshfancy
Date Posted: 17 December 2003 at 7:19pm
sorry to be stupid, but can you explain that one a litle more... just so i know what i have to change, and where.  i have those files opened to be edited, but i am not really sure where it is to be edited in the file, and what i shoudl put in.  any help?


Posted By: *acidic~misfit*
Date Posted: 18 December 2003 at 4:50am

well first of all thanksfor helpin me, it works fine .

joshfancy: Al you do is search in the code (Ctrl+f) for Application("saryAppActiveUsers") and change the "saryAppActiveUsers" part to anything you want, do this for every line of code that has Application("saryAppActiveUsers") make sure you keep the same name for it each time though!.
do that for both files and it should work fine



Posted By: joshfancy
Date Posted: 18 December 2003 at 6:13pm
so in actuality, you could add a 1 or something in front of the s in sary for all those entries in each file and save them, upload them, and it all shoudl work correct?  i assume that the one file relies on the structure and entries of the other file in order to work, is that correct? 


Posted By: psycotik
Date Posted: 19 December 2003 at 7:30pm

just change it to something like:

Application("saryAppActiveUsersJohnsForum")




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