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Topic: About Web wiz guide
Posted By: india
Subject: About Web wiz guide
Date Posted: 17 January 2004 at 8:31am
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Hi all, Today i noticed at 6 PM INDIAN STANDARD TIME, webwiz site had over 140++ active visitor's its a good news for the site and Borg that it crossed the limit ATLEAST After my joining What you guys thinK ?? ------------- India http://mumbai2.netfirms.com |
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Posted By: Mart
Date Posted: 17 January 2004 at 8:33am
| Well there's 460 active visitors atm, so 140 isn't the limit! What are you talking about? |
Posted By: neotrix
Date Posted: 17 January 2004 at 11:38am
I have seen 850 my self  ------------- http://www.muhammadbinyusrat.com/blog/" rel="nofollow - Say to the believing men.. |
Posted By: neotrix
Date Posted: 17 January 2004 at 11:41am
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belive it or not, but right now it is 1734 1734 Active Visitors... Ohh My God.... I think google wont even be havnig this much ------------- http://www.muhammadbinyusrat.com/blog/" rel="nofollow - Say to the believing men.. |
Posted By: Gullanian
Date Posted: 17 January 2004 at 11:47am
| Errr.... google gets billions of requests a day! |
Posted By: huwnet
Date Posted: 17 January 2004 at 12:08pm
| 2920 Active Visitors at 5:10 GMT |
Posted By: india
Date Posted: 17 January 2004 at 12:15pm
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1742 again at 11PM INDIAN STANDARD TIME this wasnt tell yesterday these are for today only or maybe from before but different time ------------- India http://mumbai2.netfirms.com |
Posted By: india
Date Posted: 17 January 2004 at 12:16pm
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1028 the very next moment how come ?????????????? ------------- India http://mumbai2.netfirms.com |
Posted By: india
Date Posted: 17 January 2004 at 12:18pm
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next moment 770 i think some bug, isn't it or such high fluctuations cant be there ------------- India http://mumbai2.netfirms.com |
Posted By: Mart
Date Posted: 17 January 2004 at 12:23pm
| Could be people clicked on the wrong link or realise this site isnt what there looking for and close the window straight away. |
Posted By: neotrix
Date Posted: 17 January 2004 at 12:37pm
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but still, the difference is in thousands... it cant be so.... ------------- http://www.muhammadbinyusrat.com/blog/" rel="nofollow - Say to the believing men.. |
Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 17 January 2004 at 1:07pm
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Counting active users is never acurate as HTTP is a state less prorotocol, so it is impossible to keep track of such things. How the active users counters works is by counting sessions. Each time a user comes to the site a session is started for that user. The problem then is if a user has cookies disbled a new session is started for each HTTP request. Each page is then 1 HTTP request, but then each image on the page is another HTTP request. This means that if a visitor has cookies disabled and there are 20 images on a page 21 sessions will be created for that user. Sessions usully last for 20 minutes so this can quickly mount up. This isn't a bug more a work around with the way HTTP works as being able to workout who is connected is never going to be accurate unless HTTP is changed to a connection orinated protocol. ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |
Posted By: Gullanian
Date Posted: 17 January 2004 at 1:13pm
| Can't you detect if the cookie holds a value (to show if they have cookies enabled/disabled) and if they have cookies disabled, track the visitor based on IP address, otherwise use cookies? |
Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 18 January 2004 at 6:23am
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Not unless you want to add a hell of allot of overhead to the site and even then it won't be accurate. If you do a little research on how HTTP works then you will see how difficult it is to detemine if a user is online or not. HTTP being a stateless protocol means that a connection is only established during the time that that page, image, etc. is downloading to the calling browser, once the page, image, etc. has finshed being sent the connection is dropped. There is no way of tracking users using HTTP except work arounds like cookies, but cookies are disabled there is no way of tracking the user. The IP address could also change for each connection, that means you could have over HTTP connections from one user for one page as each image, link file (CSS, JS, etc) would require a new HTTP connection to the server. ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |
Posted By: Scotty32
Date Posted: 19 January 2004 at 6:04am
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could be google... i noticed google was on my site, and was takin up about 6 guest spots on the Active User page ------------- S2H.co.uk - http://www.s2h.co.uk/wwf/" rel="nofollow - WebWiz Mods and Skins For support on my mods + skins, please use http://www.s2h.co.uk/forum/" rel="nofollow - my forum . |
Posted By: the boss
Date Posted: 19 January 2004 at 8:46am
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for each request of document a new HTTP session is opened.. and also browsers usualy many simeltaneous HTTP connection to websites which range usualy between 3 - 10 so average each visitor has 3 or more connection in normal conditions... ------------- http://www.web2messenger.com/theboss"> 
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