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Topic: Portal
Posted By: zoheyr
Subject: Portal
Date Posted: 11 March 2003 at 4:59pm

Hello ppl,

i was wondering if any one know a portal like the one that from MadDog. http://portal.madasp.com/ - http://portal.madasp.com/

Still didnt figure out if we can get that one for free???

But i just need to have pools and calender and some other things like that.. i know it is possible to do it, but making them work together could take some time...

 




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Posted By: michael
Date Posted: 11 March 2003 at 5:00pm
There are free portals out there but maddogs is the only one I know that has wwg apps in there but it does cost money.


Posted By: boyohboy
Date Posted: 11 March 2003 at 5:25pm

what happened to my post that says:
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(that site is breaking the license agreement on releasing the forum)
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repost if there's no problem!



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Posted By: michael
Date Posted: 11 March 2003 at 6:48pm
what are you talking about


Posted By: Lindy
Date Posted: 11 March 2003 at 7:01pm

I'm with Michael... what are you http://www.cnet.com - talking about?

 



Posted By: Trevni
Date Posted: 11 March 2003 at 9:03pm
Originally posted by zoheyr zoheyr wrote:

Hello ppl,


i was wondering if any one know a portal like the one that from MadDog. http://portal.madasp.com/ - http://portal.madasp.com/

Still didnt figure out if we can get that one for free???


But i just need to have pools and calender and some other things like that.. i know it is possible to do it, but making them work together could take some time...


 



After the final version of WWF 7 comes out there will be more portals just like MadDogs, supposedly better and free...

Should come back here and ask again after the final WWF 7 is out.


Posted By: cheesy
Date Posted: 11 March 2003 at 9:17pm
well guys, for your information, i find maddog's portal is a very well-scripted integration of the best apps web wiz guide offers at a very low price for the hardwork put into it, the support service that is offered is excellent and overall ease of use and modification is unmatched. Borg's forum is the best asp forum on the internet and Maddog helps with it and shares his fees with Borg to encourage him to continue his hardwork for everyone to profit. He is a major contributor to keeping this forum free. The vast list of features his portal has to offer is unbeatable and lots of hardwork goes into it so i understand that people would want to be credited and thanked for their hardwork. Just thank people like him and Borg for giving you opportunities like this. Thanks, Drew (Maddog).


Posted By: Trevni
Date Posted: 11 March 2003 at 9:42pm
That was um... cheesy

Let's hope that someone makes a portal that is better than MadDogs and free. Free forum, free portal, free applications.

Free stuff helps the ASP community mature. The only reason PHP has grown so fast is because it is free and a lot of components that relate to PHP are free; like MySQL (the database that most PHP applications use) and Apache (a free web server that most PHP applications use)

If you are into making a profit from this then all I can say is *bleep* you. Let it be known that I strongly appose MadDog selling his portal and Borg taking a cut from its sales.

MadDog helps Borg for free just like the rest of us giving him good ideas and encouraging him. I believe that this forum would still be free even if MadDog's portal was free.


Posted By: cheesy
Date Posted: 11 March 2003 at 9:50pm

nobody in their right state of mind would spend as much time as borg and maddog do to enhance the applications and provide support for free. other people could try to do it free but they would not spend as much time or keep quality up to as high standards as borg or maddog. no need for harsh language. sit back and think that they do this as a job but also because they like sharing their expertise and giving you high quality asp applications and portals.

P.S. Many php apps require purchase. You should know that.



Posted By: boyohboy
Date Posted: 11 March 2003 at 10:49pm
Originally posted by boyohboy boyohboy wrote:

what happened to my post that says:
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Edited by Moderator

(that site is breaking the license agreement on releasing the forum)
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repost if there's no problem!

I see. I don't support evildoers, either.

Well, you should've told me on the first post instead of bluntly deleted it (if you did).



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Posted By: Trevni
Date Posted: 12 March 2003 at 12:08am
Originally posted by cheesy cheesy wrote:

nobody in their right state of mind would spend as much time as borg and maddog do to enhance the applications and provide support for free. other people could try to do it free but they would not spend as much time or keep quality up to as high standards as borg or maddog. no need for harsh language. sit back and think that they do this as a job but also because they like sharing their expertise and giving you high quality asp applications and portals.


P.S. Many php apps require purchase. You should know that.



Many might require purchase but not most, or not as many as ASP applications. If you choose ASP you are faced with other costs that you don't find with PHP. IIS and MSSQL are not as affordable *wink, wink* as MySQL and Apache, compare ASP/MSSQL and PHP/MySQL hosts. "Us" ASP supporters already pay a higher price for ASP. Why pay for applications that can be free or why not support the development of future free applications like (maybe) a free and better Portal for WWF?

Do you think the people that write Post Nuke, PHP Nuke, or even phpBB spend less time to produce, enhance, and support their applications than MadDog or Borg? Keep in mind that all those applications are free and are in no way inferior to what MadDog and Borg produce.

Lets keep ASP as free as we can.


Posted By: zoheyr
Date Posted: 12 March 2003 at 2:00am

hey ppl

well i just asked for a free protal, thats cuse im dont really make any site or some thing, i just like to play around with them....

and i think they deserve to sell what they make, but when they keep it free its much better, i dont think borg could have keep this site running for so long if he would think its not right...



Posted By: Hawkeye
Date Posted: 12 March 2003 at 7:43am

Why shouldn't people get paid for their hard work?  Should Microsoft give away their software as well?  Wake up and smell the coffee...this is the real world.  If some people want to give things away for free, fine.  If others want to charge for QUALITY products, fine.  If you don't like it, write your own Portal and give it away...after you finish putting in about 500 hours of work you may change your mind...

 

 

 

 



Posted By: michael
Date Posted: 12 March 2003 at 9:57am

boyohboy, I did not delete anything, that's why I said I don't know what you are talking about.

MadDog is the only one allowed to re-package wwg applications together with his portal. He sells it and gives a share to bruce. Whoever wants to make a portal needs to know that you cannot package the wwg applications with it so you could only provide your code and give dl links for the apps. There has been a big discussion about it and that is just the way it is. Make a portal for yourself, this is a learning experience, not to copy someones code.



Posted By: boyohboy
Date Posted: 12 March 2003 at 10:43am
testing

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Posted By: boyohboy
Date Posted: 12 March 2003 at 10:46am
GODDAMNIT, I just wrote a freaking long post and hit submit and got "only sufficicient members..."  If I wasn't sufficient a member enough, the freaking "Post Reply" wouldn't have been avail for me to type in the first place, would it? Click "Back" and everything was lost!

So distraught at the moment.

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Posted By: michael
Date Posted: 12 March 2003 at 12:20pm
I get that once in a while too.


Posted By: zoheyr
Date Posted: 12 March 2003 at 3:23pm
haha ... i know what u mean boyohboy... had that few dayz ago, had to retype evry thing....


Posted By: techy
Date Posted: 12 March 2003 at 4:02pm

I think 90% of the problem with post like this is that most of the negetive comments to posting apps for sale come from some 13-18 year old that has never built anything that was either good enough or big enough to sell for any more than a few bucks.

Now, with that in mind lets look back at those negetive users and see if there is any truth in that.

1) is that I have built more apps and add-ons for this forum and portal app than everyone here. (besides drew aka. maddog)

2) If you think that it is a bad deal to have to pay for, that I know of 1200 hours of coding, then piss off.

3) if you think the PHP boards are soooo great. go code in those!

4) if you think that you can build a better portal.... Go for it man! (finger)



Posted By: michael
Date Posted: 12 March 2003 at 4:22pm
Good one techy.


Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 12 March 2003 at 5:48pm

If software sould all be free then hey shouldn't everyone work for free!!

So then, I have an old car and a van that need washing, the van also needs a respray and a service, a pile of washing up in my kitchen to do, the hovering needs doing, my washing needs ironing, and about a 1,000 other things to do, anyone want to come and do all that for me for free!!!!!



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Posted By: MadDog
Date Posted: 12 March 2003 at 5:51pm

-boRg-,

I personaly think you should charge for webwizforum v7.

Just keep v6 free for an "example" of part of v7.

If you charged for v7 im sure you would have ALLOT more money for bills, this website, and you might even be able to live off of it! If i where you i would charge!!!!!!



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Posted By: boyohboy
Date Posted: 12 March 2003 at 6:07pm
Originally posted by MadDog MadDog wrote:

-boRg-,

I personaly think you should charge for webwizforum v7.

Just keep v6 free for an "example" of part of v7.

If you charged for v7 im sure you would have ALLOT more money for bills, this website, and you might even be able to live off of it! If i where you i would charge!!!!!!

Now dont get ahead of yourself there, maddog. Business is entirely different than what borg is doing now.

Maddog, honest tell us if the bucks you made from selling your portal really worth it (your effort, business-wise)?

Let me tell y'all a story. I have a friend who's trying hard to get into online business and has some success. I told him about WWG products and went out of my way to say all the nice things about them. He looked at them, asked me a few questions and commented:

What business can these asp apps do?

"I really don't know" I answered.



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Posted By: MadDog
Date Posted: 12 March 2003 at 6:09pm

Of course its worth it!

I dont have to go out and start a job at $6.50 an hour... i dont have to take cr*p form a boss no one likes... i have my own hours... i can sleep in ()... im doing what i like... and i have money to pay bills

Of course its worth it!



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Posted By: Trevni
Date Posted: 12 March 2003 at 7:02pm
Borg, from what I know this forum here is your hobby and not a way of making money; it started out that way at least. I can guarantee that you will lose more than 50% of your community if you charged for this forum. I personally would turn to Snitz or other free asp forums that are not bad at all.

Maddog, you said that you want to make your own forum and that Borg's WWF forum is keeping your Portal back. You also said that you would give your forum out for FREE. You encourage Borg to sell his and would like to give your forum (if you ever make one) our for free?
What is the logic behind that? Go behind Borgs back and take over his community?

Borg should check out:
http://www.maddogs-asp.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=214&PN=1

Thats where MadDog talks about dropping WWF and making his own, even has a poll for it on his site.


Posted By: MadDog
Date Posted: 12 March 2003 at 7:04pm
I never said i WAS gonna make it... i was just thinking about making it. Learn your facts before you post.

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Posted By: michael
Date Posted: 12 March 2003 at 7:15pm
I have the feeling that this is going to turn into some violent thread again. What is the deal. Let Bruce to what he feels is right. If he wants to keep it free or charge for it is to his and only his discretion. If Maddog wants to write his own, hell let him (I know you never said you will I am just hypotethising). There are too many people minding other peoples' business. Let be and enjoy what this site has to offer and keep you attitudes with someone else.



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