Web Wiz Forums 7.7a released
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Software Version: Web Wiz Forums 12.08 - https://www.webwizforums.com
Topic: Web Wiz Forums 7.7a released
Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Subject: Web Wiz Forums 7.7a released
Date Posted: 03 February 2004 at 4:08pm
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Web Wiz Forums version 7.7a FULL has now been released. The new version fixes a number of bugs that appeared in previous versions as well as adding a few new features like being able to change members usersnames from the admin area. You can download this new version from:- http://www.webwiz.net/web_wiz_forums/forum_download.asp - http://www.webwiz.net/web_wiz_forums/forum_download.as p Upgrading To upgrade from 7.7, to 7.7a just replace the changed files listed in the Version History file with the new files. Using Web Wiz Forums on Free Web Host If you are using Web Wiz Forums on a free web host please make sure you follow the new install instructions for free web hosts otherwise the forum will not run correctly. http://www.webwiz.net/web_wiz_forums/docs_free_host_install.asp - http://www.webwiz.net/web_wiz_forums/docs_free_host_in stall.asp ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |
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Posted By: Santos
Date Posted: 03 February 2004 at 9:58pm
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I just finish to set up my forums page with Ver7.7 and make many
changes in forms, languajes, messages, autoresponse replies, etc. I downloaded the new 7.7a version and remain prepare to upgrade, but I very aprehensive to make changes over my past work who worked very well. So I decided to look first line by line to see the upgrades or changes. e.g. admin/suspend_registration.asp didn't see any change excep a text in line 124 If you want your own FREE Forum then goto http://www.webwizforums.com --> Same thing in forum_post.asp, is that correct, or I missing something? I'm working over the rest of files... What do you recommend me to a secure upgrade? see line by line and make changes manually where files imply personals mods or replace all full new files? Im just an amateur not a programer. |
Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 04 February 2004 at 3:52am
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There are changes to all the files in the version history file or I
wouldn't bother typing the change into the version history file, what
the changes are I can't remeber, it should say in the version history
file. Although it is worth replacing all the files as I usually forget to put some changes in the version history file. ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |
Posted By: shay
Date Posted: 04 February 2004 at 8:39am
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i have a Q: what this for: Edit the common.asp file found in the main forum folder and change the following variable: -
To: -
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Posted By: ljamal
Date Posted: 04 February 2004 at 8:45am
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Is it possible to get the version history file without downloading the entire forum? I'll probably download the entire forum, but it would be nice in the future to be able to decided whether such a download is necessary before downloading. ------------- L. Jamal Walton http://www.ljamal.com/" rel="nofollow - L. Jamal Inc : Web/ Print Design and ASP Programming |
Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 04 February 2004 at 12:19pm
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New versions are never bought out unless you should upgrade. New versions are usually released with bug and security fixes, if you arn't running the latest version your forum may not be secure or stable. ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |
Posted By: ljamal
Date Posted: 04 February 2004 at 12:31pm
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Yes, but in case a lot of the fixes regard the application variables, date functions, uploads and admin tools which I have altered to fit my needs or do not use. From this upgrade, the only change I needed was on the search page, it's hardly worth downloding the entire forum for that one change.
You are forgetting that a lot of us heavily modify the basic forum and it would be a great help to us not to have to download the entire forum in order to find out that you updated pages to modify application variables or the RTE both of which I don't use on my forum. ------------- L. Jamal Walton http://www.ljamal.com/" rel="nofollow - L. Jamal Inc : Web/ Print Design and ASP Programming |
Posted By: Mart
Date Posted: 04 February 2004 at 12:32pm
Good work Will this be the last version in clasic ASP?
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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 04 February 2004 at 12:32pm
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No, I plan on a mySQL version.
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Posted By: Mart
Date Posted: 04 February 2004 at 12:57pm
| Will that be in PHP? |
Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 04 February 2004 at 12:59pm
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No, just be able to use a different database. there are enough PHP forums out there.
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Posted By: shay
Date Posted: 04 February 2004 at 4:42pm
someone?! ------------- [My english is "Sucks"] |
shay wrote:Posted By: gavinc
Date Posted: 04 February 2004 at 5:23pm
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Music to my ears. A MySQL version would widen your customer base tremendously. |
Posted By: 808Rider
Date Posted: 04 February 2004 at 6:11pm
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Sweet! This is just what I have been waiting for!
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Posted By: MadDog
Date Posted: 04 February 2004 at 6:12pm
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That way you can make it with any type of database and make it really fast and customizable. ------------- http://www.iportalx.net" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: matkra
Date Posted: 04 February 2004 at 6:29pm
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I am still at Ver 7.6 SQL bare bones with no mods installed, can I just replace all the files and just keep the DB and my uploads folder the same? Or are thre other issues. I currently have V7.7a installed on my dev server and pointing to my old dev SQL DB from V7.6 is seems to be working ok. I also pointed it my prod 7.6 SQL DB and it appears that all is ok. Short of the uploads folder and the DB file are there other files I need to keep? Hey Maddog! what version of WWforums is your portal using these days? Thanks Matt
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Posted By: Santos
Date Posted: 05 February 2004 at 3:47am
I use Visual Comparer http://www.compare-file.com/download.htm to compare each sensitive file between both original versions first (7.7 without my own changes and 7.7a). Then knowing and understanding the changes, I put the changes secure in my own fixed version. You can use others application to compare entire folders (7.7 vs 7.7a original version) to see the mayor changes in files. ------------- Saludos desde Venezuela Santos Martínez |
Posted By: ljamal
Date Posted: 05 February 2004 at 7:44am
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But you still have to download the new download. You shouldn't have to download a new version to figure out if you want to upgrade. However, apparently no one else seems to mind, but is it really so difficult to make the version history file a separate download? ------------- L. Jamal Walton http://www.ljamal.com/" rel="nofollow - L. Jamal Inc : Web/ Print Design and ASP Programming |
Posted By: BoLt
Date Posted: 05 February 2004 at 7:51am
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Top Marks works well, Thankz again. ------------- BoLt (Computer Engineer) I suffer from Dyslexia, it means I can not spell to well not that I am thick. www.welshlens.co.uk |
Posted By: ctscott
Date Posted: 05 February 2004 at 9:56am
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it is a pain to go thru and weed out the changed modules. ------------- ______________________ http://www.cfbtrivia.com" rel="nofollow - College Football Trivia |
Posted By: Skeever
Date Posted: 05 February 2004 at 1:05pm
| Brilliant stuff Borg, i just upgraded from 7.6 to 7.7a without a hitch. All i had to was replace the asp files. |
Posted By: thekiwi
Date Posted: 05 February 2004 at 3:16pm
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I must admint I searched all over WWF site looking for a change history file or a release description. So whilst it is common practice for software releases and yes ... you currently do have to download and extract to see what has changed ... its not a large file My personal preference would be to have the change file available for viewing ..... ------------- Cheers TheKiwi http://www.infobahn.co.nz - Internet Infobahn - website design and hosting |
Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 05 February 2004 at 3:46pm
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Poeple shouldn't wonder if they shopuld upgrade, it's a cse of you
should always be running the latest version if you don't want your
forum to be secure as new releases usually follow after security fixes. If you want your forum to be secure from hackers you should always upgrade to the latest version!! ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |
Posted By: ljamal
Date Posted: 05 February 2004 at 3:53pm
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Not everyone is going to upgrade everytime.
If there are security updates then they should be noted. With people modding the forum to work with their web sites, it's unreasonable to think that they will upgrade everything. Most people will not upgrade unless something happens to their website or there ia a feature that they want. ------------- L. Jamal Walton http://www.ljamal.com/" rel="nofollow - L. Jamal Inc : Web/ Print Design and ASP Programming |
Posted By: Mikey
Date Posted: 06 February 2004 at 8:44am
I'm with -BoRg- on this one, I do upgrade a heavily modded forum every time he releases a new version, just for the security  ------------- Handyman man? |
Posted By: matkra
Date Posted: 08 February 2004 at 11:04am
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Skeever, Thanks for you help, I just uploaded the ASP files. and all is working well. It seems that the forum is faster now, has that been your experience or is just in my head? Matt |
Posted By: maddkat
Date Posted: 08 February 2004 at 5:08pm
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I agree with borg!!!!! ------------- 1+1-1=1
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Posted By: zamalek
Date Posted: 10 February 2004 at 4:53pm
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That will be a really great idea and I'm waitng for it on a heated serface. |
Posted By: iD.JenKen
Date Posted: 11 February 2004 at 1:49pm
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I would like to know if u need help for u MYSQL version coz I need its . And I will give u some money . gl and really very good job man . Dont hesitate to contact me @ mailto:jenkenzool@msn.com - jenkenzool@msn.com |
Posted By: JohnKn
Date Posted: 16 April 2004 at 6:11pm
| Will we need to wait until mySQL 4.1 is released for the forum? I started trying to modify ver 7.6 to use mySQL but the lack of support for sub queries in mySQL 4.0 stalled that effort. |
Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 17 April 2004 at 12:45pm
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I think it will have to wait till a decent myODBC driver is released that fully supports ADO and recordset paging.
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Posted By: ljamal
Date Posted: 17 April 2004 at 12:59pm
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Why?
Ideally, for paging you want to use the most effcient manner. For MSSQL, that would be allowing the database to handle paging via a stored procedures. Otherwise, that would be disconnected recordsets and arrays. Currently, you are using ADO recordset paging and ADO recordset paging is not the most efficient manner of paging. It would be far better to use arrays to disconnect the recordset and "page" through the arrays. This method is ADO independent and would work for all databases. Futhermore, using this method and some clever programming, you could utitilize MSSQL stored procedures for paging without re-writing the paging code for other databases AND make the forum that much more efficient with SQL Server. ------------- L. Jamal Walton http://www.ljamal.com/" rel="nofollow - L. Jamal Inc : Web/ Print Design and ASP Programming |
Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 17 April 2004 at 1:09pm
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It's not just the paging, but ADO is often used in the code for things
like updating the database, particully when dates are involved as it
has been found that using an SQL update statement often leads to server
and database incompatibilty problems with things like dats and times.
With ADO handling this less problems occur. Currently there is allot of code that would not run with the myODBS driver and would require that nearly all files be re-written to work with mySQL. Hopefully a better myODBC driver will become available, but as I haven't seen a new driver in over a year my guess is that there will never be one that is fully compatiable with ADO. ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |
Posted By: ljamal
Date Posted: 17 April 2004 at 1:19pm
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Again, correct me if I'm wrong, but ...
With dates, you are always added the current date/time to the database, should you not be using the native databases time functions? In the case where there is a difference between forum and database time, you could use the native date function as well as the native dateAdd function for the database and cirumvent all database date problems. Never been a fan of ADO updates and inserts. I prefer using the .execute method or stored procedures as it is faster. ------------- L. Jamal Walton http://www.ljamal.com/" rel="nofollow - L. Jamal Inc : Web/ Print Design and ASP Programming |
Posted By: dpyers
Date Posted: 17 April 2004 at 2:09pm
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So what'll be next. The MySQL or the asp.net version? ------------- 
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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 18 April 2004 at 12:35pm
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The forum does use dates produced by the server or update dates in the
database with dates/times that are not the correcnt date/time. The server date time is used as problems were found where the SQL database was at a different time setting to the server the forum was on. Also there are many, many other issues that I don't want to spend all day explaining. But basically there are many problems with making the forum compatible with mySQL that stretch further then just ADO problems, recordset paging, and sub quiries. ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |