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hpnadig 
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Joined: 13 August 2003
Location: India
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 Posted: 24 August 2003 at 12:32pm |
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well, I think you've misunderstood Mr.croco...
You can have a google tab to search your own site...
Go through Google Hacks Second edition.... on how to use that particular API( i.e when you code yourself).
You can even have good small search engine yourself with a php or asp script... you get whole lot of php scripts for doing that... you might like to bother yourslef searching for those... installation is very easy
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Croco Dylan
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Joined: 20 August 2003
Location: Netherlands
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Posted: 24 August 2003 at 12:37pm |
 hpnadig wrote:
well, I think you've misunderstood Mr.croco...
You can have a google tab to search your own site...
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Indeed, misunderstood. Such a box will do exactly what I want.
Thankx, dp
Still wondering though for an extra page with 'external' search boxes (to search internet) and whether these will get you any higher up on the search eng's lists.
Anyone any experience with this?
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ray12
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Joined: 31 July 2003
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Posted: 24 August 2003 at 11:05pm |
Croco Dylan wrote:
What I want is a search box which can do the same search (search meta tags such as desription, keywords, etcetera) but just for my own websight (everything under http://www.croco.nl/) not an internet wide search.
Have found some freeware boxes, but these require a banner on my websight or can only search a limited amount of pages.
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Take a look at http://www.wrensoft.com/zoom
It should do exactly that, lots of hosting options (php, or asp, or javascript) and does not require any ads or banners - completely hosted on your own site. It's free (as in beer) for sites of up to 50 pages... and that's always been enough for me.
It's better than using Google or something for your own site because you control when it updates - whereas Google only indexes (reads in your site) only once every long while - and search results become outdated quickly. You also have a lot more control over how your website is indexed - what pages to skip etc.
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Croco Dylan
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Location: Netherlands
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Posted: 25 August 2003 at 2:22am |
Thankx ray12 for the Zoom tips. Lookx like somet'ing I could defntly use. Also thankx to others, I am still researching possibilities, but for now got a good push in the right direction.
Thankx y'all.
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abhinav
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Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: India
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Posted: 26 August 2003 at 1:08am |
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you can check hotscripts.com .. plenty of free sripts lurking there
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Croco Dylan
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Posted: 26 August 2003 at 4:47am |
abhinav: thanx for the tip http://www.hotscripts.com/
found lots of stuff there, at least two or three javascripts that'll do exactly what i want, thanx again
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ray12
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Posted: 26 August 2003 at 11:45pm |
Quick note: unless your site is very small, JavaScript should be the last resort, because the way it works is that it has to execute on the client-side: that is, in the browser of the person visiting the site. This means that the index data (all the pages, keywords, the way they relate to each other) has to be downloaded to each user's computer before they can run the search query. Now if you have a fairly big website... (which is usually when you need a search function) - each visitor has to download maybe 500kb or so of data before they can run a search query ... that's gonna be some slow loading pages! And if you have the search box on every page...(although it might get cached, you get the idea).
So if your site is very small, you might be able to get away with it only adding 50kb or 100kb to each page. Otherwise, check with your web host to see if they have PHP or ASP, or any server-side scripting support. That's really the most efficient way - because none of the index data has to be transferred, it stays on the server.
Hmm, not such a quick note afterall :) Good luck.
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Croco Dylan
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Posted: 27 August 2003 at 1:41am |
ray12 wrote:
each visitor has to download maybe 500kb or so of data before they can run a search query ... that's gonna be some slow loading pages!
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Found a java scripted search box (tipue) which uses a datafile. Just enter all info, description and keywords and it workx. So, no need to download all pages and no need for any script or program to "read" all original html files.
As to my ISP. They have announced upcoming changes, and if this were to be believed, I'd be able to use PHP and ASP at some time in the future. When? Nobody knows .... Until then (or untill I change ISP's) I'll have to do with different solutions. Of course, I'm very anxioously awaiting these changes, 'cause then I can do a lot more on wy websight.
For now I'll just settle for the tipue solution. Okay, admitted not perfect. Does work fast and can do what I want. No need for any form of server-side scripting and no specific needs on the client side, except java of course. The major disadvantage however, is that I'll manually have to enter all info (fill datafile) and that differences between the datafile and the actual meta tags that are in the original html files. Discrepancies can easily occur.
Probably I'll see if I can make a simple perl script or use a kourne shell to read all the htmll files, put meta tags in certain fields and arrays and let my (perl)script update or change the contents of the datafile.
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Search Box needed for own sight