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Have the security concerns been worked out of IPv6 yet? Last we researched this at work, there were a number of holes, some quite worrysome.
It causes us issues at work simply because it's forced on in server2008R2.
I note a number of firewalls block it by default still. (so I'm assuming no, the security concerns are still there?)
Our network admin is really not happy having to jump through so many hoops to be able to use outside resources when our own network will never need v6, and our state has their own subnets already reserved - enough to last us until I retire and well beyond. So the only reason we'll have to deal with it is "outside".
I see it becoming a security nightmare - and wonder how all the firewalls in the world will handle it.
The "transition period" is pretty scary. Translations don't always work well from what we've been shown.
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IPv6 is more secure than IPv4 as they built security in to IPv6. Most firewalls have IPv6 blocked by default as most people are not using IPv6 at this time, and you only need to enable it on firewalls if you are using IPv6.

The problem with the IPv4 allocation is in the early days large blocks were given out to companies and many of these IPv4 addresses will never be used. Most IPv4 address have been allocated to the US, so the US has an abundance of IPv4 addresses. Hence why your state probably will not run out of IPv4 addresses.

The problem is the rest of the world does not have as many IPv4 addresses. IANA has now run out of IPv4 addresses with the last remaining blocks of /8 being issued to Regional Internet registries last February. These last remaining IPv4 address are set to run out, with APNIC in the Pacific and Asia down to it's last block of IPv4 addresses and set to run out completely before the end of this year. In Europe you can now only get enough IPv4 addresses from RIPE that you can justify will be used within 3 months. This is making it very hard for us to get IPv4 addresses and by this time next year we may not be able to get any at all!!

With your own network if you wish to stay with IPv4 then you could use tunnelling to access the IPv6 Internet. There are lots of protocols to do this like 6over4, Toledo, etc.

In our case as a web host we will have to look at running a Dual Stack with services having both IPv4 and IPv6 addresses so that every one, whether they are on IPv4 or IPv6 can access services and websites.

Your network admin may not like change, but it's coming. There are also lots of advantages to using IPv6, like built in security, getting rid of NAT's, mobile IPv6, faster forwarding, new header format, stateless and statefull address autoconfiguration, and much more.


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I agree with everything Bruce says about IPv6 and v4.  This is a problem I am dealing with at work (I do this forum stuff as a volunteer).  The biggest looming problem is when some major provider like Verizon changes over, and their smartphones start getting IPv6 addresses natively.  At some point, people will not be able to access your networked services unless you are dual-stacked.  Im not so worried about not being able to access NW services, as major services will be dual stacked for many years to come.  Google, for example, has been dual-stacked for a couple years now.

SO....Bruce, when can I get the new SFSed version of Webwiz?  Smile  We are holding off upgrading awaiting the SFS support (yours appears to be much more thorough than my kludge), and my site is having some real issues with smartphones cause its so old.  We are on 9.55, and my new Android cannot post anything to the forum, the rich text entry boxes dont work.
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The new Spam Cleaner Tool is now complete and just going through the testing stage.

As well as the registration system checking with the StopFourmSpam Database to block spammer signups the new Spam Cleaner will allow Admins and Moderator to do the following actions from one screen:-

Suspend Member
Submit Member to StopForumSpam
Delete Members Posts
Delete Members Private Messages
Block Members IP Address
Remove Members Avatar
Remove Members Signature
Add Admin Notes about the Spammer

This should make it much simpler to stop spammers who do get through all the spam filters and block them from spamming yours and other forums again.
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Well done Bruce
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Originally posted by WebWiz-Bruce WebWiz-Bruce wrote:

The new Spam Cleaner Tool is now complete and just going through the testing stage.
 
Is it ready for rollout yet?  :-)
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We are testing on a number of forums, unfortunately since running the trail this forum and other production forums that we are testing this on have gone from receiving spam almost everyday to only one in the last two weeks!

This means so far we have only had one real spammer to test with which showed a few issues which we have hopefully fixed, but now waiting for another spammer to test this on.

Spammers seem to be like buses,  when you don't want one they always seem to be there getting in your way, when you do want one there's not one to be found.

The next release does have over 100 changes due to the extra spam tools, SSL support, and other features and fixes, so will more likely have a beta release.
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Have released Web Wiz Forums 10.10 Beta which includes support for StopForumSpam.

You can download 10.10 beta from the Early Release section on the Web Wiz Forums download page at the link below:-
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