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Phat 
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 Topic: What would tis be worth?
Posted: 31 August 2005 at 11:24pm |
I have been asked to make a website and have no idea what people charge to make sites. They want a site like
http://www.mmccontrarian.com.au/
so I know what they want just a matter of pricing it. Do any of you charge for sites and if so how much do you charge?
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Posted: 01 September 2005 at 1:17am |
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That seams to be an informational website and not a participating one, so most if not all of it will be static content, as for the design is simple and should require little effort.
I would charge £300 for that (hosting included on all my designs), as it is the started most basic type of site design.
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Posted: 01 September 2005 at 2:08am |
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Yeah it is all static except one aspct which will be a price updated monthly.
The new site is basicly the same as it is a listed investment company as well.
I take it it is 300 for a year? Do you charge a yearly hosting fee or
just leave it to the company to pay the hosting on an ongoing basis?
Thanks.
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Posted: 01 September 2005 at 4:28am |
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No, it's a one off £300 for a starter site like that, hosting is for life (kind of :D) I tell all my clients and this is done on the very first meeting, that I can provide hosting included in the package and this host is provided on a [as is] but that in 2/3 years it may change, all agree to this because they think that even if something happens to the host in 2/3 years, by then they will have an alternative or new site. So all in all it's a good deal they get. When I say hosting is for life, I mean it's for as long as I run the server, and since I will always have my websites to be served so the server is here to stay for a very long time.
Not all webmasters can do this, I can because I own a very nice Dell PowerEdge server sitting right next to me, running for the past 4 years non-stop, it all started when I needed to host my sites and it was getting too expenssive, so I host them myself, and all other sites I do.
I might have to review my prices, and was thinking on charging for the host seperatly or on a monthly basis, but as it stands, work is pooring in, I have to filter out the cheap ones, also don't have much free time, 2 full time jobs, and the web designing is on the side on a freelancing basis.
If you do a lot of websites and can't afford or don't want to extra assle to run a web server, buy some reseller package from a good hosting company, make sure it is fast, lots of space, lots of features, and that it has a fat pipe to the Internet, so you can serve from your space lots of sites.
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Posted: 01 September 2005 at 6:34am |
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I figure out the hours it takes x an hourly rate. I toss the hosting in
for free - at least for the 1st year. Also toss some number of
"retainer" hours the first year as part of the price at a lower hourrly
rate - eveyone wants something changed within the 1st year. After that
they can get an annual retainer contract at a reduced rate. The trick
is that the hours don't carry over into the next year.
I charge extra for cms and the clients are happy to pay it. I also
charge by the image as I contract that out at around $50-$75 an hour.
I do an hour or two of sales and scope work. After that, design work is
billable. That first hour or two also gives me a clue about the clients
readiness and I get a feel for how many retainer hours I might need to
through on in the first year.
I don't really sell site design and coding. I concentrate on extending
business function or capability to the web. So we talk a lot about the
business purposes of the site and how best to get there rather than
focus on brochure aspects. SEO enters the picture a lot in that
situation and I often contract that out.
Also do a lot of process mapping to integrate existing business
capabilities with the web - gives them a nice professional looking feel
for what's happening and how their business is capitalizing on internet
technologies. Usually leads to more work extending other aspects of the
business - e.g. an insurance agency site lead to creating online
qoutes, return on investment charts, and separate sales and customer
service web apps.
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Posted: 01 September 2005 at 9:19am |
Oh the lost revenue!
Phat... charge the 300# and 50 bucks a month for hosting. It's a great residual revenue stream and people expect to pay it. I charge about $250 per month and include 5 hours of consulting for markup, layout, graphics, SEO, marketing and management if needed. It assures my customers that I will personally stand behind them.
Here's how I look at it... I'm a valuable resource and if people aren't willing to pay well for my services then I will just have to find the ones who will.
That said... it's your business! I'm just telling you what I would do.
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