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    Posted: 01 April 2011 at 5:21pm

Hi

I have been successfully running a forum using V7.91 and MS Access for a couple of years.

Recently, we had a huge number of very obvious spammers registering. As a simple means of disposing of them I simply used the facility to batch delete users selecting to delete all users not flagged as active. This appeared to work well when I checked the membership list while still connected. Once I logged off however, neither I, nor anyone else has been able to access the forum with Error 500.

I have checked the error logs which, in the relevant place, say "|80004005|[Microsoft][ODBC_Microsoft_Access_Driver]_Cannot_open_database_'(unknown)'.__It_may_not_be_a_database_that_your_application_recognizes__or_the_file_may_be_corrupt. 80 - 91.125.173.1 HTTP/1."

I have downloaded a copy of the database, done a compact and repair, re-uploaded but with no change in the results. I also tried importing it into the latest free version of Web Wiz but got much the same error message. I then created a new empty database from a much older working version, simply importing the empty tables, exporting the data to ASCII files and then importing to the empty tables and recreating the relationships. Once again, the same errors persisted.

Can anyone suggest how I might be able to recover the forum (all of the data is, incidentally, clearly visible and acccessible in MS Access 2000)?

Obviously this is badly in need of upgrading but as I plan to use mySQL I was proposing to simply lock the old database so people could view it and review the new one. I would still like to do this but obviously need to restore the old one!

Many thanks

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 April 2011 at 7:21pm
Maybe I would suggest (since Bruce who created the forum software is well switched on) that you contact the sales department, and see if he would be willing for a fee to recover and upgrade the database for you. I cannot say if this is something he would do for sure, but it may be worth asking

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 April 2011 at 9:03pm

Many thanks. I might well try that - although being a non-profit conservation organisation I might well not be able to afford it!

All the best

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 April 2011 at 10:02am
Unfortunately this is the very reason the Access version is for testing only and not support in a production environment.

Even mySQL tends to have problems once you get to around 400MB, for large busy forums SQL Server is by far the best choice as it can handle forums with databases of many Gigabytes in size with millions of posts.

I would say the best option would be to move to a hosted forum solution with SQL Server and Web Wiz Forums Premium Edition from £4.95 per month. We have a migration service with this for a one of £19.95 where we can take your present forum and migrate it across upsizing the Access database to SQL Server. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 April 2011 at 1:31pm

Hi Bruce

Thanks for your reply. Presently I have extremely low hosting costs which are met by the two conservation organisations who sponsor the sites. I have been reluctant to use your hosting facilities simply because of this - in the current economic climate they cannot meet any further costs - and I'm a pensioner! 

Nonetheless, I can see the value for money in what you offer - after all, with the £9.95 package (which appears adequate for our purposes - so long as I can control the size of the pictures members have been uploading recently!)  the first year is roughly equivalent to buying the software in the first place. I'd just have to cut down on cigarettes! 

I am surprised at what you say re mySQL. I run several vastly larger databases using mySQL with no problem - although these are in a native (PHP/Linux) environment, which might account for this. I will willingly admit that I am primarily a LAMP enthusiast but equally willing to admit that I haven't found any forum software as good as Web Wiz at the price on Windows or Linux platforms.

I do have a few questions:-

  1. Are you confident that you can import the old (technically corrupt, but fully accessible in Access 2k) into SQL Server? Certainly the £19.95 is reasonable.
  2. Can I control uploaded image sizes? Some are currently 2 to  3+Mb in size - my users need their wrists slapped. (I can and will shrink many of the existing ones - but it takes time!) 
  3. Assuming these are satisfactory, how do we proceed?

If you prefer to email me to take ensuing discussions off board, please feel free.

Regards

Chris

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 April 2011 at 8:17am
The b est thing to do Chris is to contact sales to discuss the various options and create a migration plan for your unique circumstances.

However, you should be aware that as the Access database is corrupted the chances of recovering the data to a state it can be migrated are 50/50
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 April 2011 at 10:42am

Hi Bruce

Since our failure to recover the data via the upgrading/migration route I have carried out considerable work on the database and have managed to recover most of the data and got it into, and working with, both Access and mySQL using the latest free version of Web Wiz. 

I did email you last night (replying to you at the forum hosting support address) but have had no reply. Since I see you have been here this morning I am posting here in case the email went astray.

Basically, since I am up and running again, albeit with the restrictions of the free version, are you prepared to have a go at upgrading to the hosted solution again?

Incidentally, would it be of value if I were to post how I recovered the data into a usable format?

Many thanks

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 April 2011 at 10:57am

Hi again Bruce

Lest anyone should believe you are slow in responding I have now received your email and will respond shortly.

Thanks again

Chris

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