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    Posted: 23 October 2012 at 7:30am
1) It might be a good idea to add a feature to generate forum/blog sitemap.
Google is asking me for a sitemap which I don't have.
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For the NewsPad Blogging this could be a good idea, but with Web Wiz Forums if you have thousands of topics, if not hundreds of thousands of topics the sitemap file would be to long and consume to many resources trying to build it on the fly.

In which case how would you decide which topics should be included in the site map?
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We use Web Wiz Forum to share information with people that find our posts using search engines (at least 90% of them).
In order to have your topics available in search engines, having a sitemap is a good idea.

I tried to build a sitemap using Offline Explorer but failled becouse too many parameters. Then I had a filling that search engines might have this trouble too.

A search engine likes the most recent content. If it is a need to ignore something then ignore the oldest topics.
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Again going back to my previous question, if a forum has hundreds of thousands of topics how do you decide which topics to list in the sitemap.xml file?

You do not need to have a site map in order for search engines to index your forum. We find that forums using the URL Rewrite Tool not only get listed high in Google but often, like this forum, have new topics and posts listed in Google within hours.

The following search already lists this topic in Google:-
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A single sitemap should include at most 50k links.
You might have multiple sitemaps and one sitemapindex.
Hundred of thousands of topics means only two sitemaps that can be generated in less than 1 minute in a schedule or by admin action (not on the fly).

Hundreds of thousands is not much and there is a reason for which all search engines are looking for sitemaps.
By the way, it take more time talking than coding it myself.
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Generating a sitemap of 50,000 Topics will hit performance of the forum if generated on the fly.

As there is not a way to schedule tasks in Classic ASP it would need to be an admin option to create the sitemap if it were not to be generated on the fly.

The other issue is that unless the forum had URL Rewriting installed the file would be sitemap.asp.

You could use the FSO object to generate a sitemap.xml file, however, from experience find that many people running Web Wiz Forums have write permission disabled on the forum folder, which you should do for security, which means that could not generate a sitemap.xml file using the FSO object without modify permissions on the forums root folder, which is not advisable to do.

For these reasons mention above it may be best to have this feature as a add-on module rather than built in to the software.


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Originally posted by WebWiz-Bruce WebWiz-Bruce wrote:

For these reasons mention above it may be best to have this feature as a add-on module rather than built in to the software.


 You are right.
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