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Cannylad 
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Posted: 09 October 2005 at 12:14pm |
Whats the Difference - ASP & ASP.NET
I am a bit thick on the uptake and new to this ASP Stuff and do not want to start on one when I perhaps should have used the other?????
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Posted: 09 October 2005 at 12:31pm |
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Go with .net.
Classic asp will be around for a long time but it will not be developed any further as a language.
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Posted: 09 October 2005 at 1:25pm |
OK thanks for the advice. So wheres best to start with Net???
Ive just spent the last 4 days trying to get the demo guest book from Web Wiz working........................does this mean I have to start all over again  |
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Posted: 09 October 2005 at 5:01pm |
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Nope. Classic asp is a very functional scripting language. I, and many
others, still build new sites with it. The only problem is that all
other main stream web languages - php, .net, java, etc., all have
migration strategies to develop the languages further. ASP doesn't.
What you see is what you get forever. At some point, MS will pull the
plug on it and stop releasing new versions of IIS that support it
although I'd expect to see some thrd parties or open source solutions
to run it.
It just makes more sense for someone just strating out to go with a
language that has more of a future. For inexpensive web hosting
platforms, asp.net will give you more bang for your buck than either
asp or php. - IMHO.
www.asp.net is a real good place to start.
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Posted: 09 October 2005 at 11:33pm |
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On another note, at this time you might want to think about what
version of ASP.net you start with. 2.0 will be released in about a
month and I am sure it will take you that long at least to get a
publishable site working. Therefore you can start with the Visual Web
Developer Express which you can currently download for free from
asp.net.
There are many advantages in 2.0 over 1.1 and as there will an Express
Version of Visual Studio it shall give more students and beginners the
chance to code in .net. Sure they are not supposed to be free but from
what I heard, if you buy a microsoft press .net book on 2.0 they will
include a CD with the relevant Express product so you get it free if
you buy the book kinda deal. They are still free for now in the beta
version.
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Posted: 11 October 2005 at 5:21am |
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ASP has a smaller learning curve than ASP.NET, but you'll get a lot more done a lot faster with ASP.NET.
If you need to get something fast done NOW, then go with ASP. But, if
you're a strategic planner, go with ASP.NET. The extra time and effort
you put into it will pay off.
Dpyers' advice on going with ASP.NET is bang on the money - go with the
future. You do NOT want to have to deal with porting old applications
to new platforms. It is NOT fun.
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Posted: 20 October 2005 at 10:46am |
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Hi all the experts here,
We have got a very big site ..nearly 5 yrs old .. all coded in asp, with thousands and thousands of pages of content, forums, dozens of services, shopping malls etc and nearly 100,000 visitors a month - all pure asp with access and sql server.
What could be the future of sites such as ours? I have though about migrating to php or .net many times ..but have never been able to sort out how this can be done. Any ideas? There are so many issues in migration ..database migration is the most error prone if we move to php/mysql, recoding all the scripts and applications, renaming all the asp content files, updaing the includes...
Is there any other way to it?
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Posted: 20 October 2005 at 12:54pm |
Well whatever technology you decide for, the migration path will not be easy.
One important thing to consider is that you probably have quite a few links from search engines that you want to be directed appropriately, that means you'd need a handler.
If you are already running SQL Server, there is no real reason to switch to mySQL, just stick with SQL Server so you do not necessarily have to upgrade all databases.
Nonetheless, upgrading 1000's of pages will be undertaking that you have to plan wisely, and might have to be done gradually by application/service
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