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    Posted: 03 December 2004 at 5:55am
I have already search for a long time to a suitable mail programme and have now the following:

MailList Controller www.arclab.com
WorldCast www.fairlogic.com

1- does someone has experience with these programs?

2- do you have any suggestions for a good and free or cheap mailingprogram?

the programme must meet the following requirements:

-opt-in and opt-out possibility on the website

- send personal mail, dear {name}

- select people,the mail goes each time to other people and for this reason cannot I work with fixed groups or you must 8 groups is able manage

- text and html sending

- a demo

If you know a good program with these functions I gladly would hear it.

My questions
1- does someone has experience with these programs?(MailList controller, Worldcast)

2- do you have any suggestions for a good and free mailingprogram?

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He's looking for a mailinglist program, not an email client.
 
Of the two products you mentioned, you'll probably need your own W2K3 server for the arclab one and the fairlogic one is a deskop program but you may be able to import data you're collected on the web to it.
If you want to run from your desktop, you may want to check out postcast.
 
I'm not aware of a web product that meets all of your criteria.  The big sticking point is the ability to select specific individuals instead of groups.


Edited by dpyers - 03 December 2004 at 12:56pm

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oops, sorry. do a search on sf.net. Lots of good free software.
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There are no good free bulk mailers/mail list managers. The good ones all cost money. Be prepared to spend well over $100.

Dynamic Mail communicator from Apex Pacific is good, and so is the Lencom FEDE. Both have bugs, but are manageable. Dynamic can't handle views in SQL server, which is a pain. Lencom has a couple bugs too, but is far more powerful than a lot of other ones out there. Both do HTML and Text.

If you find anything for free, let me know. I've never seen a good one that is free. All the cheap or free ones I've seen are complete crap.

Any email program you use should do the following:

  • Use an SMTP server that is properly configured (i.e. not full SMTP) **** THIS IS IMPORTANT
  • Both text and HTML emails (multi-part alternative)
  • Embedded images - i.e. not lazy html
  • Full personalization from a data source, e.g. MSSQL Server, MYSQL, Access, Excel (yuck), etc.
That is the proper way to send email. Anything else will throw up spam flags. If you are looking to spam, then I have no help to offer.

I do bulk emails to existing customers and my ONLY problems come from other people managing the SMTP servers and screwing up on that end. Angry Angry Angry Which makes me more than a bit miffed. Generally, I have zero returned emails when I get my way. [I'm still working on getting a decent SMTP server that is properly configured... grrr... argh...]
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Here's a good example of a program that is only useful for spam: http://leesoft.net/postman/  -- using full SMTP is a BAD idea.
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One of the bosses I worked for used one called "Email 32" or something similar to that, definatly had 32 in the name.  That looked ok.
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Originally posted by Bluefrog Bluefrog wrote:

There are no good free bulk mailers/mail list managers. The good ones all cost money. Be prepared to spend well over $100.

Dynamic Mail communicator from Apex Pacific is good, and so is the Lencom FEDE. Both have bugs, but are manageable. Dynamic can't handle views in SQL server, which is a pain. Lencom has a couple bugs too, but is far more powerful than a lot of other ones out there. Both do HTML and Text.

If you find anything for free, let me know. I've never seen a good one that is free. All the cheap or free ones I've seen are complete crap.

Any email program you use should do the following:

  • Use an SMTP server that is properly configured (i.e. not full SMTP) **** THIS IS IMPORTANT
  • Both text and HTML emails (multi-part alternative)
  • Embedded images - i.e. not lazy html
  • Full personalization from a data source, e.g. MSSQL Server, MYSQL, Access, Excel (yuck), etc.
That is the proper way to send email. Anything else will throw up spam flags. If you are looking to spam, then I have no help to offer.

I do bulk emails to existing customers and my ONLY problems come from other people managing the SMTP servers and screwing up on that end. Angry Angry Angry Which makes me more than a bit miffed. Generally, I have zero returned emails when I get my way. [I'm still working on getting a decent SMTP server that is properly configured... grrr... argh...]


Can you please tell me how you add embedded images?
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