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This complaining is getting stupid.

Just think about it for a minute.

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Web Wiz Forums is easily the best forum solution.
For starters with anything other than Web Wiz Forums you have to pay for the SOFTWARE!!!!

With web wiz forums you are paying to remove google ads that keep the project going and Links to WWG.



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Bluefrog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 March 2006 at 10:07pm
Originally posted by Susan0722 Susan0722 wrote:

It's hard to tell from the verbose post of the OP if he wants people to pay or if he is ticked that he is now going have to pay to get rid of the ads.
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I'm not ticked at all about paying. It's cheaper to pay for a good product than waste time with something that's free & "kind of" works.

For $50, if I end up wasting even 1 hour, then I'm losing money.

What ticks me is some people's attitudes about wanting everything for free. There are too many people that get something for free, and then the only thing they can do about it is bitch and complain. F*** them. If they don't like it, they can go out and spend the months and years it takes to make their own.

There's a big difference between constructive criticism about product functionality and complaining about the price of something that you can get for free.

e.g. "I don't like how X works. Could it be done like Y?" Is a legitimately constructive type of comment. Whereas, "I don't like the fact that you're trying to get money & put food on the table," is neither constructive nor reasonable. That ticks me off.

It's nice when commercial users can pay enough to keep a product free for non-profit users, but that doesn't always happen.

Anyways, that's enough for my mini-rant on freeloaders that complain about pricing.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote the boss Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 March 2006 at 12:18pm
perhaps we should all become communits, code linux and speak cyrillic..then we will have everything for free..offically and legally LOL

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This is to all the free loaders out there... AND YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE !!!!!

Either pay Borg for his time and efforts , or P*** off and go get another forum that you would pay loads of money for.  But dont come here and complain about this one....


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Scotty32 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 March 2006 at 12:48pm
Originally posted by Tegwin Tegwin wrote:

This is to all the free loaders out there... AND YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE !!!!!

Either pay Borg for his time and efforts , or P*** off and go get another forum that you would pay loads of money for.  But dont come here and complain about this one....



am guessing this is directed at me? since i got a email notification of a post to me, which has disappeared


btw: for your "other" post - i think you TOTALLY misunderstood what i was acctually saying


personally i think that newbie members who have ONLY just started using it cant complain, but i think long standing members who have used this for long time have the right to DISCUSS it, and debate it

end of the day (as everyones saying) its up to borg, and borg along

(PS: i DID make my own forum for one of my sites, due to the fact i had an excisting userbase and would of been harder to intergrate WWF into it Wink)


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It was directed at all the people who are complaining out the fact that the forum is using ads.. Which is why I changed the posting.

I have the same in my own business, I run a computer consultancy firm in Hampshire UK , and I get the same thing all the time from people who "want everything for free" and when they do get it for free they complain about it..

Of course people have a right to discuss and debate it, but what is happening here is not debating or discussing, its plain old complaining.

At the end of the day (to quote your phrase Smile) Borg has a right to do whatever he sees fit with the software. All I am saying is that if that displeases some people then they should take alternative measures ...






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At least it's nice to see so many people all nice and warmed up to commercial software. Big smile  And it's good to hear some ranting on the commercial side of software. Does my heart good to see that the world isn't full of commie b@$+@Rdz! Angry

Usually all the ranting is done by the FOSS crowd. Oh, and the Mac zealots too. They love to rant more than anyone. Hell... They even have conferences to rant. Well, the FOSS crowd does too...

Not that I'm against FOSS - it sure has a place. Just not as the mainstay. If it did, nobody would write anything and we'd never get anything new or any innovation.

There is some really killer quality stuff out there. e.g. Secret Rabbit Code (libsamplerate). It's free for non-commercial use (i.e. GPL) but you need to pay for it for commercial use. It's also higher quality than a lot of commercial software out there.

BTW - Secret Rabbit Code, or SRC, stands for Sample Rate Convertor. Very cute LOL


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Scotty32 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 March 2006 at 1:32pm
Originally posted by Tegwin Tegwin wrote:

I have the same in my own business, I run a computer consultancy firm in Hampshire UK , and I get the same thing all the time from people who "want everything for free" and when they do get it for free they complain about it..

Of course people have a right to discuss and debate it, but what is happening here is not debating or discussing, its plain old complaining.

At the end of the day (to quote your phrase Smile) Borg has a right to do whatever he sees fit with the software. All I am saying is that if that displeases some people then they should take alternative measures ...




am not complaining saying it should be free

am just saying i see it as pritty useless with google ads, i feel it degrades my site, if i wanted ads all over it ad would paste ads all over it, but i dont

the link back am fine with, and id be fine with the google ads IF it was done nicely, but theres like 3 on a page, header, first post, footer

and i AM willing to pay, but as i said, running a non-profit site, you dont have much insentive to throw money at the site, as you wont see it come back,

i think Commerical users should pay a fee for the software, and a different fee for link removal, and i think non-profit sites should have it for free and pay for link removel

an even better idea (as i said before) would be to have a "lite" version then enter the link removel key and get more features, but that'd be alot of work and (as someone said) easily cracked

i think it would hurt the software to have to pay to use it, as people wouldnt try it, i know if i hadnt used it before i doubt id pay to try the software, but since ive been using it for like 3/4 yrs i know its WELL worth the money (though for non-profit site am not going to pay just to remove the link removel, but if i used it for a commerical site i would [and did plan to])
when version 8 comes out (and if it still hads google ads) i WILL be buying the link removel, but as ive said before, i feel ive been bullied into it which is the whole point of me posting in here

i personally feel borg needs to find another way to make money other than google ads (i dont mean other than the forum) i think it might even encourage the "selfish ingrates" who remove the link-back, to also remove the google ads

i have no problem with borg trying to make a living, i just think google ads are wrong, and i feel they degrade the forum and any site using it for free (if anyones happy to use it with google ads)
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