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dpyers 
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 Posted: 06 December 2004 at 10:12am |
 henkvdberg wrote:
all my wishes are also in web Wiz Mailing List, therefore probably I take these.
But I have a few questions about WebWizMailingList
1- If you download it on this website, is it then ready-for-use, can you send newsletters and make a subribe and unsubscribe on your website?
2- What are your experience with WebWizMailingList, is it a good program to send business mails? |
- 1. - Yes. Note that the free version is limited to 50 emails.
- 2. As BlueFrog noted, it depends upon your site. I'm in the process of having a user evaluate the new version for possible implementation early next year and so far they're thrilled. It's an excellent Newsletter Management System from both the technical and the usability view.
Two possible concerns with it from my initial look:
- You have the ability to allow the user to opt for either HTML or Text email. Doesn't allow multi-part mime for sendng both types within the same email.
- No mail queuing. I'll probably add options for ASPQmail or the Queing option for ASPEmail to accommodate large lists. Adding the options should be pretty simple. Don't know yet how reliable the counters will be after that though as it probably will count mail sent to the que which is different than mail sent from the que.
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Posted: 06 December 2004 at 11:07am |
bf wrote:
The fact is that you do get better responses from
HTML emails. People like flashy stuff/crap - how else can you explain
the success of game shows, reality TV, infotainment like Access
Hollywood, or hyponews like the American version of CNN (the
international version actually conveys information)? |
Game shows? Lets talk about spam itself. Take away the silly ~1% of
people buying from the glitz and stupid formatting, and you take away
the spammers. Until that percentage stops responding spam will not
decline. As a matter of fact most people would be quite surprised how
many well-known companies actually covertly support spam...
As far as CNN, check their ratings against Fox lately. I don't like Ted Turner anyway. 
As a side note, BlueFrog don't you own (or are associated with) ALFTP
and ALZIP? I thought I recognized the avatar. Great software you have.
I try to recommend it to people. 
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Posted: 06 December 2004 at 5:18pm |
xeerex wrote:
bf wrote:
The fact is that you do get better responses from
HTML emails. People like flashy stuff/crap - how else can you explain
the success of game shows, reality TV, infotainment like Access
Hollywood, or hyponews like the American version of CNN (the
international version actually conveys information)? |
Game shows? Lets talk about spam itself. Take away the silly ~1% of
people buying from the glitz and stupid formatting, and you take away
the spammers. Until that percentage stops responding spam will not
decline. As a matter of fact most people would be quite surprised how
many well-known companies actually covertly support spam...
As far as CNN, check their ratings against Fox lately. I don't like Ted Turner anyway.
As a side note, BlueFrog don't you own (or are associated with) ALFTP
and ALZIP? I thought I recognized the avatar. Great software you have.
I try to recommend it to people.
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I get to view both the US and International versions of CNN, and they
are just so totally different... We don't get news Fox much... Can't
compare.
I'm the International Marketing Manager for ESTsoft, the maker of
ALZip. JaeBeom is the designer, and the Eggheads he creates are just
way too cute. Coming out this week are a couple Christmas desktop
wallpapers. My favorite is the baby Santa Claus. The design team is
really busy at the moment, so there are only 2 this Christmas. ALSee
will be coming out soon as well. Keep your eyes peeled for that.
I'm glad you like the software.  We aim to please.
My site is http://renegademinds.com. You can clearly see how badly I suck at design there. But GDT v2.1 is almost ready
YEAH~! I've been working on it for a while now, and it is almost ready.
So I'm almost ready to email everybody on my email list
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Posted: 07 December 2004 at 1:12am |
bluefrog wrote:
You can clearly see how badly I suck at design there. |
Hey, anyone that is involved with some good software, has cool egghead avatars, AND promotes FireFox is a friend of mine. 
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Bluefrog
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Posted: 07 December 2004 at 9:02am |
Check out the installer for Email Avenger - It may look a bit familiar 
Just keep in mind that it uses Jmail and if you use a specific Jmail
version, don't actually install it. It's meant for end users, and not
developers. There is a source code version for developers.
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henkvdberg
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Posted: 07 December 2004 at 9:58am |
Bluefrog wrote:
For 2 - Depends on your business. The
question isn't really about the WebWizMailingList, but more about the
components you use. CDONTS and CDOSYS are very weak. You are better off
using the ASPemail from Persits. It is a very good component and is
reliable - which is everything for business. The free version of Jmail
is weak, but their full version is much much better. Since
WebWizMailingList is ASP, you can modify it easily to suit any custom
requirement you may have. Bruce's code is exceptionally easy to follow
and modify. His code reads like a complete tutorial on ASP. Numerous
people have learned a lot from him.
If you are running a mailing list from a web site, then it is ideal.
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Thanks for the answer.
Normal i send about 100-150 e-mails a month, do I need a other program for sending?
if the answer is yes, i prever a free program, does anybody have suggestions?
Edited by -boRg- - 10 December 2004 at 11:40am
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Posted: 10 December 2004 at 6:16am |
I also have a question about this.
How much e-mails is the maximum to send with SMTP?
50 a day?
150 a day?
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Mart
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Posted: 10 December 2004 at 11:20am |
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That depends on what how your host has configured your server
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