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Am sorry if am not understanding this correctly, but are you saying the Vista Biz was hooked up by cable, and Vista Home was wireless? yet you say Biz is better than home?

If this is the case it sounds like a poor comparison.

Im not trying to defend Vista, as Ive never used it, and I dislike windows. I just think it deserves a fair test before you bash it.


As for switching to Linux, if you need to use a WYSIWYG you could look at Nvu which runs on both Windows and Linux which may help in your transition. I haven't used it properly, just a 5min play, plus Im more of a Notepad kinda web dev. If that isnt of help you could also look at running Frontpage under wine when you've set up your test machine.
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I was being brief in my comparison of Vista Home to Vista Business. It has more to do than the wireless issue. The differences (in my opinion) between the 2 versions is much more pronounced than the differences between XP Home and XP Professional. And of course, I base this only on the versions of Vista installed by Dell. All I can say is that if you put 2 machines side by side and compare Vista B to Vista H, you'll see what I'm talking about. It only took me a couple of hours to determine that I like Vista Business better than the Home edition. If someone has a different opinion I can respect that. Different strokes for different folks.

I know that there's an Apache plugin for FrontPage but friends who run Unix boxes tell me it's a nightmare to get to work properly. About 60% of my clients use FrontPage, so it's not me , but them who have to shed their dependence on it. As a Host, I have to support whatever my clients require or they'll go somewhere else.
If I have trouble getting FrontPage extensions to work on the Linux box, I'll give you a holler. With FP support, I'd be a lot closer to being able to get away from MS. Thanks.


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P.S....
Does Linux/Unix have support for MS SQL & Cold Fusion? My servers run those products also.
Our Cold Fusion license cost us $1600, so if it won't work on Linux that's another reason I'm stuck using Windows. Since I have the Windows versions of both products, I'm not sure if they'd send me Linux compatible versions for no charge, or if there even are Linux compatible versions. These are things that need to be addressed if I plan on doing anything more than just adding a Linux box to a MS-based network.



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Vista is indeed an unstable operating system. And yes, I agree about the business edition being different than the home premium I did notice a big difference between the Home Premium edition and the Ultimate edition as well...
 
I recently purchased an Inspirion Dell laptop with 2 GB of RAM, Core 2 Duo processor, and a 160 GB 7200 RPM harddrive... but I hated Vista on it. I formatted the HDD and installed XP Pro SP2, but had a problem with Serial ATA/ AHCI support on XP Pro..so now I'm working on slipstreaming the files into XP's CD so I could use it.
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Don't know why you think Vista is unstable.

I have been running Vista since last January and have it on 3 workstations, and 1 laptop, and these systems are often on 12 hours a day and they are all completely stable with no issues and no crashes.

The only time iany of the machines ever crashed was when an old graphics card developed a fault and had to be replaced, but this was a hardware issue rather than an OS issue.

I actually prefer running Vista on the workstations now as it works much better with the Small Business Server (SBS). Under XP syncing with SBS was a nightmare and you would be discounted at least every other day and have to wait 10 minutes to reconnect and resync the workstation. Under Vista never have this problem, and the whole SBS network and Vista workstations run much more smoothly.
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Originally posted by stonecutter stonecutter wrote:

P.S....
Does Linux/Unix have support for MS SQL & Cold Fusion? My servers run those products also.
Our Cold Fusion license cost us $1600, so if it won't work on Linux that's another reason I'm stuck using Windows. Since I have the Windows versions of both products, I'm not sure if they'd send me Linux compatible versions for no charge, or if there even are Linux compatible versions. These are things that need to be addressed if I plan on doing anything more than just adding a Linux box to a MS-based network.


Sorry, i thought you was refering to desktop, not server.

No MSSQL will not work on Linux, as the MS = Microsoft

On linux you would use Apache, MySQL and PHP (commonly refered to as a LAMP setup)

ASP, MSSQL and Windows are all Microsoft products and Microsoft do not like competitors so will not support, or allow their products to work on other operating systems.

Im not sure about Coldfusion as ive never used it before you would have to research that.


And as for Frontpage Extentions, microsoft dropped support for that on linux servers so that wouldnt work. (again i thought you was referring to frontpage software for your self on the desktop).
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Originally posted by -boRg- -boRg- wrote:

Don't know why you think Vista is unstable.
 
The reason I think it's unstable is because of the poor drivers' support that Vista has. It's not just the basic hardware on the machine but many other add-ons that people use.
 
I'm also unhappy with the sound mixer in Vista... just look it up on google and see how many folks are having problems with it.
 
With XP it was very simple to get things done the way you want.
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Guess what guys?
 
http://news.google.com/nwshp?tab=wn&ncl=1123951829&hl=en&topic=t
 
Borg I hope you'll like that one!
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