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Topic: IE version 8 to finally comply with web standards!
Posted By: iSec
Subject: IE version 8 to finally comply with web standards!
Date Posted: 04 March 2008 at 7:50pm
http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=206901527&subSection=News - http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=206901527&subSection=News
 
We're slowly getting there LOL


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Posted By: MadDog
Date Posted: 04 March 2008 at 11:12pm
about dam time!


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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 11:00am
It may be more standards compliant, but doesn't still mean it's not full of bugs, which is the biggest problem with developing for the present version of IE.

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Posted By: 123Simples
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 6:35pm
A bit like vista I'd sayAngry

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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 8:30pm
I've been running Vista over a year at least 10 hours a day and yet to find a bug in it. However, SP1 will give Vista the same kernel as Windows Server 2008, and I must say I really like Windows 2008 especially IIS 7 which is around 30% faster, allot more secure, and simpler to copy IIS between servers.

Improved PHP support is also much better with better performance, I've even heard that PHP will run faster on IIS 7 than Apache, with the new FastCGI.


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Posted By: iSec
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 10:58pm
I have just downloaded http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=1A2E3DDD-B38B-439D-BBA7-F179A5D3ECAF&displaylang=en - IE 8 Beta 1  for Windows XP, to find that it's still disappointing. I know it's still in beta 1, but I think the stuff I'm seeing will remain even after beta testing and developers will have to struggle again to make it work. Among those disappointing bugs are the following:
  • My website's DHTML navigation menu is not functioning properly
  • WebWiz Forums Username drop down is not functioning at all:
     
  • Buttons like New Topic are not appearing like they should:
  • Page parts are shattered everywhere on some ASP.NET sites...

I must admith though, that IE 8 is 10 times faster than IE 7 (as of now). Another cool feature is the developer tool... the icons in the menu bar of IE 8 are also neat.



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Posted By: MadDog
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 11:02pm
IE8 is probably going to steal all of its features and designs from other browsers... just like how Vista has the Mac look to it.

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Posted By: michael
Date Posted: 06 March 2008 at 3:22pm
Originally posted by MadDog MadDog wrote:

IE8 is probably going to steal all of its features and designs from other browsers... just like how Vista has the Mac look to it.


Yeah like there are so many different ways of doing it in the Browser world. Sure they look at competition, so does Firefox or do you think they come up with everything on their own?

As far as rendering problems go, they said in one of the videos, this version is geared for devs to code for IE8 but there is a IE7 rendering mode that you can turn on. Does it still render like that in that mode?


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Posted By: iSec
Date Posted: 06 March 2008 at 6:52pm
Nope, the emulate IE7 option still would not fix it.
 
Even the hotmail inbox page wouldn't load under IE8...
 
I remember one of Microsoft VP's of Marketing saying "obviously the world wasn't ready for Vista"... and someone responded saying: "Oh really, why wasn't Vista ready for the world?!"
Now the same applies to IE8...
 
I don't know who manages the development of IE at Microsoft, but that person or persons should have been replaced long time ago.


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Posted By: 123Simples
Date Posted: 06 March 2008 at 7:25pm
I think the "bugs" in vista are more to do with its compatability with certain software. Example: Spyware Doctor kept crashing it for me. Since I stopped the program from running no crashes!

Microsoft have to learn that they cannot have a complete monopoly over all software, and at least try to make their software work with other peoples software. On a positive note, I have become familiar with vista and I do like the way it displays, works, etc and I'm glad that I didn't give up and go backwards to XP

As far as browsers go, I use Firefox and have for quite a while now, because I personally find it unbloated like IE, and less prone to being slow and heavy handed. IE only comes into the equation when I click email links, otherwise Firefox for me is better, surperior and quicker


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Posted By: iSec
Date Posted: 06 September 2008 at 9:56pm
Just wanted to add a comment regarding the new updates to IE 8... The Beta 2 of IE 8 is awesome... compared to IE 7, IE 8 rocks! Some new features were added since beta 1 was released...

some of the things I like in IE 8 are the ability to highlight specific word(s) and once highlighted an option appears from where you can select to search your default search engine for the term you highlighted. Another good thing is when a page crashes, other tabs will not be effected, and the tab that crashed recovers immediately.

Rendering pages is much better than beta 1, but still has problems on some sites. There is also a button right next to the address bar called the compatibility mode... and if you're on a specific site that is not rendering properly you can click that button to display the site in compatibility mode.

If you get a chance, especially if you use IE as your default browser, then I recommend that you download the beta version... You'll like it: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/internet-explorer/beta/worldwide-sites.aspx - http://www.microsoft.com/windows/internet-explorer/beta/worldwide-sites.aspx


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Posted By: Scotty32
Date Posted: 07 September 2008 at 10:34am
Firefox has had the highlight and search for ages - its become habit for me.

And I wouldn't recommend using a beta browser as your default, for obvious reasons.


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Posted By: iSec
Date Posted: 07 September 2008 at 10:22pm
Originally posted by Scotty32 Scotty32 wrote:

And I wouldn't recommend using a beta browser as your default, for obvious reasons.


No, don't... it was meant for people "who already" use IE as their default browser.

The comparison made was between IE 7 and IE 8... not Firefox and IE. I do like the spell checker in FF though... Big%20smile


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Posted By: Scotty32
Date Posted: 08 September 2008 at 9:54am
Originally posted by iSec iSec wrote:

Originally posted by Scotty32 Scotty32 wrote:

And I wouldn't recommend using a beta browser as your default, for obvious reasons.


No, don't... it was meant for people "who already" use IE as their default browser.

The comparison made was between IE 7 and IE 8... not Firefox and IE. I do like the spell checker in FF though... Big%20smile



Sorry, i dont understand what your saying.

If people use IE as their default browser, then upgrading to IE8 (which i believe is still in beta) would start using IE8 as their default browser.

It wouldn't matter to people who use FF or another browser as their default, as their daily browsing wouldn't be affected by having IE8.


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Posted By: iSec
Date Posted: 10 September 2008 at 4:49am
Originally posted by Scotty32 Scotty32 wrote:

Sorry, i dont understand what your saying.

If people use IE as their default browser, then upgrading to IE8 (which i believe is still in beta) would start using IE8 as their default browser.

It wouldn't matter to people who use FF or another browser as their default, as their daily browsing wouldn't be affected by having IE8.
 
You forgot that this forum is for web developers and designers. Beta software like IE8 Beta 2 targets this type of community, however people who don't deal with web design and development should stick to the most recent, stable/non-beta, browser of their choice.


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