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Topic: A new browser...... from google
Posted By: iSec
Subject: A new browser...... from google
Date Posted: 01 September 2008 at 11:55pm

Google takes aim at Microsoft with new Web browser

1 hour ago

MOUNTAIN VIEW, Calif. (AP) — Google will begin distributing its own browser in a move likely to heat up its rivalry with Microsoft.

The Internet search leader confirmed the long-rumored browser in a Monday posting on its Web site. Google said the free browser, called "Chrome," will be available for downloading Tuesday.

The browser represents Google Inc.'s latest challenge to Microsoft, whose Internet Explorer is used by nearly 75 percent of Web surfers. Google has been concerned that Microsoft will try to program Internet Explorer in a way that makes it more difficult for Google's search engine to attract traffic.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hHvkt5UkooUX1otx8ROBM0k-5VcQD92U5R6O0 - http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hHvkt5UkooUX1otx8ROBM0k-5VcQD92U5R6O0


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Posted By: dpyers
Date Posted: 03 September 2008 at 1:57am
Tried it. A little too minimalist. I like my FF addons and a drop-down address bar list

With the way google shares info with advertisers, using Chrom is like giving your PC to Doubleclick.




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Posted By: jamie.townsend
Date Posted: 03 September 2008 at 9:10am
I am using it now, so far I have been really impressed with its speed and simplicity.

A must download !


Posted By: iSec
Date Posted: 03 September 2008 at 12:15pm

I think it's great! Very fast and the tabs are neat.

dpyers - Would you rather use IE (Microsoft) over Chrome (Google)... as far as privacy/ads are concerned? Which one of the two is less evil, Google or Microsoft? I personally think Google are less evil than Micrososft. I don't think Google's intentions are to expose your info to advertisers... because that would make their browser a spyware.



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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 03 September 2008 at 12:44pm
Google Chrome appears to be based on Apples open source webkit, which means the same rendering engine as Safari 3.1

It identifies itself as:-

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US) AppleWebKit/525.13 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/0.2.149.27 Safari/525.13

This would mean that it is Apple Safari 3.1 with same user agent just with the Chrome/0.2.149.27 added in.

The browser engine even functions in the same way, with the same issues and bugs as Safari 3.1

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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 03 September 2008 at 2:48pm
By the way Rich text Editing support is currently being tested on this forum for Safari as Google Chrome uses the same engine it also now has Rich text Editing support in this forum.

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Posted By: iSec
Date Posted: 03 September 2008 at 3:05pm

I normally use IE as I deal with Microsoft-based products for work / school. I also go to sites that use activeX plugins sometimes. Otherwise I'd be sticking to Firefox... I do not like Safari that much...



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Posted By: Scotty32
Date Posted: 03 September 2008 at 6:10pm
Originally posted by dpyers dpyers wrote:

Tried it. A little too minimalist. I like my FF addons and a drop-down address bar list

With the way google shares info with advertisers, using Chrom is like giving your PC to Doubleclick.




Being open source, they wouldnt be able to do that would that? as it would be spotted by someone?



Also, it is Safari, as googles help files say something like "if your sites work in safari, they will work in google chrome"


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Posted By: dfrancis
Date Posted: 03 September 2008 at 6:24pm
Originally posted by dpyers dpyers wrote:

Tried it. A little too minimalist. I like my FF addons and a drop-down address bar list

With the way google shares info with advertisers, using Chrom is like giving your PC to Doubleclick.


 
That's my thought too. I do my best to keep Google off my computer. It's not easy to say the least. It seems the search bar, Google updater and other apps are automatically installed sometimes. Angry


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Posted By: 123Simples
Date Posted: 03 September 2008 at 7:26pm
Google is a great search engine but I dont like toolbars and all the other crap they want to stiff you with

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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 03 September 2008 at 7:27pm
Google Chrome does use the AppleWebKit engine which is the same engine as used for Safari.

If you watch the Google PR video on why they created the browser you will notice they do not mention anything about the rendering engine, instead they just talk about the interface and how they have made it as plain as possible to match Google's homepgae.

The reason being is that Google Chrome is Safari 3.1 but with a new skin.

A bit like Netscape 8 and 9 were Mozilla Firefox with a different skin.

There is not really many rendering engines out there. There is Internet Explorer, Mozilla Gecko, and AppleWebKit. Nearly all browsers you get use one or more of these rendering engines, just have a different skin.


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Posted By: dpyers
Date Posted: 11 September 2008 at 2:31pm
Sorry to necro the thread but I wasn't able to get back to it until today.

Couple of responses to comments:

1. I would rather use the newest microsoft browser as it's more standards compliant than Chrome/Safari. That being said... I use Firefox anyway for the control its plugins/addons give me and it's even better conformance to standards.

2. There's open source, and then there's not so open source.
  • Chrome is not entirely open. Safari is a closed source engine that google licences with access to the code. Maybe they licensed the code they changed for redistribution, but I doubt it.
  • But more importantly, Google goes to it's own site to populate the drop-down list of "sites you might be interested in based upon previous browsing preferences". They don't share their internal algorithims with the OS community. Given Googles history, it would be foolish not to expect the top sites on the list to be advertisers.
  • Does anyone know why Chrome tries to call-home when it's not being used? Can't find any explanation of that behavior through a google search.




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Posted By: iSec
Date Posted: 12 September 2008 at 7:47am
Originally posted by dpyers dpyers wrote:

1. I would rather use the newest microsoft browser as it's more standards compliant than Chrome/Safari. That being said... I use Firefox anyway for the control its plugins/addons give me and it's even better conformance to standards.
 
Gotcha~!


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Posted By: ctscott
Date Posted: 12 September 2008 at 5:38pm
Originally posted by dfrancis dfrancis wrote:

Originally posted by dpyers dpyers wrote:

Tried it. A little too minimalist. I like my FF addons and a drop-down address bar list

With the way google shares info with advertisers, using Chrom is like giving your PC to Doubleclick.


 
That's my thought too. I do my best to keep Google off my computer. It's not easy to say the least. It seems the search bar, Google updater and other apps are automatically installed sometimes. Angry
 
i'm with you two.


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Posted By: alemcherry
Date Posted: 17 September 2008 at 2:14pm
I must agree with the general feelings here. Too minimalist. I love the search box on firefox - ability to pick up the search engine easily -, some add-ons, bookmarking etc. Also privacy issues are real concern.

Chrome is supposed to have better javascript engine, more stable etc. which is not of primary concern to most users. Most people doesnt mind if the javascript takes a fraction of secnd more to execute.


Posted By: shakir
Date Posted: 08 October 2008 at 9:26am
chrome the great is launched


Posted By: ctscott
Date Posted: 13 October 2008 at 2:16pm
Originally posted by dpyers dpyers wrote:

Sorry to necro the thread but I wasn't able to get back to it until today.

Couple of responses to comments:Does anyone know why Chrome tries to call-home when it's not being used? Can't find any explanation of that behavior through a google search.

 
i don't know the answer to that but i noticed it also and immediately removed it from my box.


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