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    Posted: 14 December 2003 at 5:33pm
Hey, i'm having problems with the active users part in the main page it keeps commin up that users are online that arent even registered could someone help me please?
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Im Haveing the same problem.
My site url has not even been posted yet!!!
Im still trying new stuff befor I open it.
When I went to my site on 2 occasions
there was someone in the active users list
that was not in the database.
Please help.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote wistex Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 December 2003 at 11:35pm

Are you using a free web host?  Many free web hosts set-up their servers so that everyone shares the same resourses, including application variables.  This means that the active users function in version 7.6 will not work properly on most free web hosts.

Although Borg will probably kill me for recommending this, but if you really want active users then you will need SQL and version 7.51a if you are using a free web host.

Here is a breakdown of who can run what:

  • Access Database - Paid Webhost - Use WWF Version 7.6
  • Access Database - Free Webhost - Active Users Not Available
  • SQL Database - Paid Webhost - Use WWF Version 7.6
  • SQL Database - Free Webhost - Use WWF Version 7.51a

I like version 7.6 better than 7.51a, so use that where possible.

I am not sure if version 7.51a is still available for download or not.

Hopefully Borg will give us the option of using the SQL Database option or using the Application variables option in future versions.  Or if that is not the case, hopefully someone will make a mod that will bring back the SQL Database option.

If you are using the Access version and are on a free web host, you are pretty much out of luck.  Active Users will not work on your server.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote india Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 December 2003 at 11:55pm

Well, i agree with wistex.

on my free webhost too that was happening, if u use free webhost then 4get active users lists

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote maddkat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 December 2003 at 6:23pm

Ok.
What if i changed the vars
that make this work to something different?
would this help any?

I am also useing a free host.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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If you are using Access and a free host, you are out of luck because:

  1. Microsoft Access cannot handle the database updates necessary for the active users function if you use the database method.  Your forum database will be corrupted and you will lose data. (Version 7.51a uses the database method.)
  2. Most free web hosts share application variables between websites because of the way they have their server set-up.  This means that the application variables method of keeping track of active users will not work on these free web hosts because it will track all WWF users on that server regardless of website. (Version 7.6 uses the application variable method.)

Microsoft Access + Free Web Host = No Active Users Feature

You can run WWF without a problem on most free web hosts, but you will need to disable the active users feature in the admin forum configuration.

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Originally posted by wistex wistex wrote:

If you are using Access and a free host, you are out of luck because:

  1. Microsoft Access cannot handle the database updates necessary for the active users function if you use the database method.  Your forum database will be corrupted and you will lose data. (Version 7.51a uses the database method.)
  2. Most free web hosts share application variables between websites because of the way they have their server set-up.  This means that the application variables method of keeping track of active users will not work on these free web hosts because it will track all WWF users on that server regardless of website. (Version 7.6 uses the application variable method.)

Microsoft Access + Free Web Host = No Active Users Feature

You can run WWF without a problem on most free web hosts, but you will need to disable the active users feature in the admin forum configuration.

Hmm .... I am more than likely wrong here ... but if I was to be using a FreeHost (Bluugghh) and I changed the anme of my Application variable to something uinque, wouldn't that result in my variable only being used by me?



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Originally posted by thekiwi thekiwi wrote:

Hmm .... I am more than likely wrong here ... but if I was to be using a FreeHost (Bluugghh) and I changed the anme of my Application variable to something uinque, wouldn't that result in my variable only being used by me?

That's worth a try.  You'd have to dive into the active users fuctions to see how he does it, then modify it.

If you figure out how to do it, post the mod.  As you can see, there are many many people who need this.

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