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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote WebWiz-Bruce Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 February 2006 at 1:05pm
Most of the bugs from the current beta version are fixed, but there are some known issues like skins, CSS, db table prefix, etc. that are still to be looked at
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Originally posted by MadDog MadDog wrote:

Im not sure about this, but if someone is browsing a website and their IP changes, doesnt their session ID also reset (even if the browser is left open)?

This is very true, but then I came across an article on PhpBB that explained how they got around this issue, so borrowed the idea from them:-

http://www.phpbb.com/kb/article.php?article_id=54

By checking only the first 3 quads in the IP address this should prevent issues where the IP address of the user changes from proxy to proxy, but as 3 quads are used (24 bit) this should be enough to deter any hacker from using session ID's to gain access to a forum.
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how the hell did you do this?
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I am also using Firefox and have had no problem so far with cookies disabled. Very cool.  :)

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote shovel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 February 2006 at 1:03am
No problem with cookie-less login on Opera 8 either. Not sure if it could be related, but the page generation was incredibly slow.

This page was generated in 46.625 seconds.
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Originally posted by -boRg- -boRg- wrote:

This is very true, but then I came across an article on PhpBB that explained how they got around this issue, so borrowed the idea from them:-

http://www.phpbb.com/kb/article.php?article_id=54

By checking only the first 3 quads in the IP address this should prevent issues where the IP address of the user changes from proxy to proxy, but as 3 quads are used (24 bit) this should be enough to deter any hacker from using session ID's to gain access to a forum.


That still seams like it would leave a big open whole for hackers if they where using the same ISP and their IP was almost identical but i will trust you and see how it works out.

Edited by MadDog - 08 February 2006 at 4:31am
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As you say MadDog it could be a security risk, but using the security mesaures mentioned it is only slight risk, and PhpBB seem to have been using this for quite a while without any issues.

You also have to remember that for most users cookies are used, so it would be very difficult for the hacker to get the session ID and would be the same level of risk as for the present User ID stored in cookies.

For those that don't have cookies enabled, the hacker still has to get hold of the session ID, which would mean getting access to the users own machine to see the 32 bit session ID appended to URL's in the querystring.

If a user accidently posts a link in a post etc. with their session ID attached, then it could be a slight security risk, but also combining it with an IP address and the session only being valid for 20 minutes should be adequate protection in most cases.

I will also look for a way that the session ID is stripped from any links the user posts in the forum. This should also add a bit more protection.
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Coockies system works just fine on IE beta2. I experienced some issues with the "Quick Reply" box.

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