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With the exception that ASP is supported on some non-Windows web servers and ASP.NET is not to my knowledge.  Though most of the non-Windows people are more and more gravitating to PHP.
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ASP on non-windows OS's is written by third parties and not Microsoft so do not fully support ASP.

Web Wiz Forums will only run on a Windows OS, and not any other OS supporting ASP.
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Originally posted by MortiOli MortiOli wrote:

Apologies if this sounds like an obvious question, and being off topic...
 
What advantages would people get from an ASP.NET version, to the existing standard ASP version?


All of .NET is compiled to a code called MSIL. This MSIL allows for the application too be ported to other operating systems. The .NET framework is a JIT "Just In Time" compiler, meaning when you run a .NET application it compiles it on-the-fly.

Java also works like this, but .NET creates a cache of the file in native code, therefore it doesn't have that slow load times like JAVA.

Basically, java uses a "Virtual Machine". It is also compiled to its own code (like MSIL), which is why it's so portable. You can infact run .NET applications on almost any OS. Here is so more information:
http://www.mono-project.com/Main_Page for the MONO.NET project
http://www.mono-project.com/ASP.NET for the MONO.NET ASP.NET project.

So yea, ASP.NET can run just as good on Apache servers.
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Originally posted by MortiOli MortiOli wrote:

Apologies if this sounds like an obvious question, and being off topic...
 
What advantages would people get from an ASP.NET version, to the existing standard ASP version?
Well, one benefit of using ASP and PHP over ASP.NET is that it is NOT compiled.  I'm not sure if its a requirement, but some web apps that were designed for me in ASP.NET were compiled, which means that I cannot edit it and make changes myself since I don't have an ASP.NET Editor and Compiler.  And worse, the web designer didn't give me the original code, which meant I could't change it and recompile it myself even if I wanted to.  With ASP and PHP, I can whip out a text editor if I want and make changes to the code.  Because of that I have had to rewrite all the ASP.NET code they wrote for me into either ASP or PHP, which is something I can modify myself without an ASP.NET compiler.
 
I am very glad WWF is not written in ASP.NET.  With it being in ASP, I can customize it and integrate it into my website because the source code is included.  And WWF is documented very well, I might add, which made it easy for an ASP newbie like I was to do what I needed to do to get things working the way I wanted.
 
ASP.NET is good for professional web developers who want to prevent you from changing the code, in order to force you to pay them for changes.  Or forcing you to accept whatever they offer (i.e. you can't ask Microsoft to change Microsoft Word just for you no matter how much you pay them). 
 
ASP is good for webmasters who want to modify the original code of the script they purchased or who want to build upon a good script to create something unique, and not have to pay a developer to do simple changes they can do themselves for free.
 
ASP.NET basically tries to turn what used to be uncomplied script-based web pages that could easily be changed by the webmaster into compiled software that the webmaster cannot modify.
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Ah right!
 
Thanks for all the info everyone!  It's all much clearer now!
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I am currently using version 7.91
I changed my server and updated to beta version of 8.
then I transfred the database.  But it shows some errors.

So -boRg- please tell me how i can transfer my database to another server and how can I update to 8 without any error.

Thank u
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Version 8 is for beta testing ONLY, as it has many known issues and is not stable.

If you want to use Web Wiz Forums on a live site use the latest 7.97 version.

A database upgrade tool will not become available until a stable RC (Release Candidate) version is released.

If you choose to ignore official advise and use version 8 on a live site now not only will you have an insecure, unstable forum, but you may not be able to upgrade to the full version when it is released.


Edited by -boRg- - 25 January 2006 at 5:19pm
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Hi Borg,
Sorry for rashing you but I'm really curious about the release date of the stable version of WWF 8...
I'm waiting for it in order to be able to move to a mySQL storage, and I'm counting on it to help me cut my expenses (less expensive of course).
Is there something in the horizon?
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