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andrew_ Members Profile Find Members Posts Newbie Joined: 27 October 2003 Status: Offline Points: 19	Post Options Post Reply Quote andrew_ Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: CDOSYS and Hotmail Posted: 02 February 2004 at 8:30pm
	Ive downloaded and installed the latest version of WWF and have not been able to resolve this problem. When sending email out via CDOSYS, any email to hotmail.com or msn.com and intermittenly aol.com, do not arrive in the recipients email box. I am using my own hotmail account to try to debug this error (yes, ive checked all of the misc folders and turned off my filters). Emails to other addresses go through fine and dandy. I have searched the forum and there is no topic related to this. I have not altered the scripts, and from viewing the logs of my local smtp server the smtp server is sending them just fine. So what is it about those providers that arent letting the emails through? Any suggestions? I should note that this was found from people trying to register and not recieving their activation codes. The only file I have tried to debug is functions_send_mail.asp Edited by andrew_

steve Members Profile Find Members Posts Groupie Joined: 26 June 2002 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 126	Post Options Post Reply Quote steve Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 February 2004 at 8:40pm
	I've had no trouble doing the same thing...Best I can imagine (and I'm sure someone else will have a better thought) is that you've been blacklisted by hotmail. Have you tried using CDONTS to see if that sends out ok? My work server occasionally gets blacklisted for no good reason by some addresses. Our bank for instance just will not let us send them email...big hassle. I've never had any trouble with hotmail or aol though...through work or through the forum. Edited by steve

andrew_ Members Profile Find Members Posts Newbie Joined: 27 October 2003 Status: Offline Points: 19	Post Options Post Reply Quote andrew_ Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 February 2004 at 9:18pm
	Very strange. Im running this on w2k3 server, so no cdonts and the server admins refuse to install it. Ive not had trouble in the past using cdonts, which is why i suspected it to be something to do with cdosys. I cant imagine that my tiny site has been blacklisted, but I shall check it out regardless. Update : checked with 6 of the big spam blocklists and im not listed. Edited by andrew_

WebWiz-Bruce Members Profile Find Members Posts Admin Group Web Wiz Developer Joined: 03 September 2001 Location: Bournemouth Status: Offline Points: 9844	Post Options Post Reply Quote WebWiz-Bruce Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 February 2004 at 3:35am
	It's quite common for Hotmail, Yahoo, etc. accounts to bounce emails sent by sites as they look at them as spam. This is why this site doesn't allow you to use Gotmail, Yahoo, etc. email accounts becuase of this very problem. It could also be that the SMTP server is blacklisted as someone elase using the SMTP srever may have sentout spam.
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andrew_ Members Profile Find Members Posts Newbie Joined: 27 October 2003 Status: Offline Points: 19	Post Options Post Reply Quote andrew_ Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 February 2004 at 10:26am
	So the question becomes then, how does one format an email for those sites, so it does not look like spam?

WebWiz-Bruce Members Profile Find Members Posts Admin Group Web Wiz Developer Joined: 03 September 2001 Location: Bournemouth Status: Offline Points: 9844	Post Options Post Reply Quote WebWiz-Bruce Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 February 2004 at 2:31pm
	By sending it yourself from outlook
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andrew_ Members Profile Find Members Posts Newbie Joined: 27 October 2003 Status: Offline Points: 19	Post Options Post Reply Quote andrew_ Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 February 2004 at 5:51pm
	Well thats a very snide answer. Does anyone else have any theories about how to accomplish sending an email via CDOSYS and formatting it correctly to pass through the filters such sites may have in place?

thekiwi Members Profile Find Members Posts Mod Builder Group Joined: 23 November 2003 Location: New Zealand Status: Offline Points: 392	Post Options Post Reply Quote thekiwi Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 February 2004 at 5:55pm
	Borgs reply is actually a good test. Do you have Term Serv access to the WWW Server? Are you able (ie. have permissions) to relay your clients (ie outlook / outlook express) mail via the SMTP Service on the WWW Server? The reason being, if you can send a "normal" email via the WWW Server to a HOtmail account ... then you will know you aren't being denied access from "the server", and that maybe it is a "composition" thing.
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